My what a Broad Brush you have! --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> RE: [Wrightsaid] Digest Number 1245 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Debbie Sawczak > To: 'Lance Muir' > Sent: March 19, 2006 14:24 > Subject: RE: [Wrightsaid] Digest Number 1245 > > > I took note of the following: > > Ian noted from Wrights response to Barnett: > >> > >> > declare that if the Reformed emphasis on continuity between > >> > OT and NT had been dominant in NT scholarship rather than the > >> > Lutheran discontinuity view, much of the NPP would have been > >> > unnecessary. > >> > >> I find that an interesting comment. > > I too find it "an interesting comment", for reasons you've already > heard me on; i.e., a significant amount of what I hear as new and > fresh in the evangelical community is very familiar from the Reformed > part of my background. > > The other message I really appreciated, especially the day after > watching Good Night and Good Luck, was Ian's below. I noted, without > having read the book myself, how much of the reaction from Americans > on the list was negative. It seems that in America, the entire > left-right spectrum is shifted sharply to the right, so that if you > are anywhere near the centre, or at all critical of the US, you are a > Marxist!! How, otherwise, could anyone confuse Wright with a Marxist? > > D > > Message: 17 > > Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 05:50:35 -0000 > > From: "Ian Packer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: Wright's politics > > > > Bill S: Having read a lot of Wright's stuff I think it is fair to > > call him Marxist... > > > > Ian P: Nonsense... as a reader of sociology and philosophy, I can > > hardly imagine how you make such a connection between Wright and a > > materialistic, deterministic, economic apocalypticist. > > > > -------------------------- > > > > BS: ... and hard left but that is inevitably a matter of opinion > and > > of semantics. > > > > IP: Opinion it may be but not 'mere opinion'... one would expect > > the 'semantics' to match in some clearer way to how one can > > accurately describe the world. But this discussion seems all the > > more absurd having just heard Wright talk about the childishness > > of 'left' and 'right' talk as though things can be so neatly > > characterised as such. (e.g. Archbishop Rowan Williams holds open > > the prospect long-term gay relationships as warranting some kind of > > > affirmation of the church but is against abortion. Is he right or > > left?) It is this kind of talk which I think is "fundamentally > > naive"; as is anyone who imagines that matching troops around the > > world is actually what 'we' Christians are about... for goodness > > sake, don't we believe we are part of God's transnational people > > now... why all the defensiveness over our views (from the > irrelevant > > sidelines) over American, British or Australian policy? Hail, > > Caesar... > > > > If Wright is "in the corner with violently anti American and anti > > Jewish political types", then that is a corner so vast that it > > hardly deserves to be called a corner (note the highly conflictual > > boxing analogy for any disagreement). > > > > May I suggest that no-one talk about 'their politics' in relation > to > > Wright until they can articulate it from an ecclesiology that takes > > > seriously the corporate nature of Christian faith and our unique > > vocation in the world between the horizons of our crucified but > > risen Lord and the inaugurated eschatology of peace (shalom). > > > > Thanks to John S and Rance for sharpening the significant issues > for > > us though, as usual. > > > > Grace and peace > > > > Ian > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.5/284 - Release Date: > 3/17/2006 > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
