So that has nothing at all to do with anything; typical sidestepping the facts. There ARE "real scientists" who believe as DM does about creation. (duh.) iz
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 5:32 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM I understand that a lot of agreement exists between Benny Hinn and Kenneth Copeland. So? ----- Original Message ----- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> Sent: March 19, 2006 22:40 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM > The problem with you, Lance, is that you live an insular life; thinking > that > others who don't agree with you don't get out enough. My husband is a > medical doctor and research scientist who believes exactly as DM does, and > he knows many others who believe as he does. Stop being so narrow minded > about what "real" scientists believe. izzy > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 7:21 AM > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM > > I DID discuss it with you off the list but, you did not respond, David. > What > > we (most believers) have here is a failure to communicate with you (your > sect). You cite Heb 11 as if it amounted to 'case closed'. When I wrote > you > privately David, I mentioned Hobart Freeman. Please look at his legacy > and, > take care. E. W. Kenyon's offspring are everywhere. Are you one of them? > > I also asked you whether you'd be interested in exposing yourself to some > 'real' believing scientists re: Genesis 1-3. Would you? Further David, > would > > you be interested in exposing yourself to some 'real' logicians (i.e. > philosophers who employ logic without falling prey to rationalism). > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> > Sent: March 19, 2006 08:08 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM > > >> Well, perhaps I should have kept that to myself, or shared privately with >> a >> few others, but then, wouldn't that have tended toward sectarianism? At >> least my daughter is healed, Lance. You should be rejoicing with me, not >> fearing dangerous sect or cult. The difference between us on this matter >> has to do with an understanding of faith. Please read Heb. 11, and also >> consider that I only speak of my personal belief and practice, which is >> not >> the same as insisting others do the same. Lastly, you should consider >> discussing issues like this one with me, perhaps off the list, rather >> than >> making erroneous judgments about me. >> >> David Miller >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> >> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:00 AM >> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM >> >> >> I have read all of these passages numerous times. Yes, I do read the >> Bible. >> >> Like it or not David, you are co-leader of a sectarian group. >> >> You posted a family anecdote on TT in the last week or so. What that >> reflected concerning 'your God' spoke volumes. If anyone should be >> fearful, >> David, I'd say 'look in the mirror. >> >> At least our concern seems mutual. :) >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> >> Sent: March 19, 2006 07:46 >> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM >> >> >>> Lance wrote: >>>> David:On warning (wo)men re:'transgressing >>>> the commandments of God'. Everyone >>>> (including you along with all of those within >>>> your sect, David) 'transgresses the commandments >>>> of God', David. >>> >>> You appear to be using the word "sect" here rather loosely. I'm >>> anti-sectarian, remember? I do not believe that denominations are of >>> God. >>> It was Dean's tendency toward sectarianism that caused us difficulty >>> recently. >>> >>> That aside, it is comments like this one about everyone transgressing >>> the >>> commandments of God that cause me deep concern for your own eternal >>> fate. >>> If you think that everyone transgresses the commandments of God, then >>> that >>> means that you transgress the commandments of God. Such indicates that >>> you >>> are not be abiding in the doctrine of Christ. Have you not read the >>> following passages? >>> >>> Matthew 19:17 >>> (17) ... if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. >>> >>> John 14:15 >>> (15) If ye love me, keep my commandments. >>> >>> John 15:10 >>> (10) If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I >>> have >>> kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. >>> >>> 1 John 2:3-4 >>> (3) And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. >>> (4) He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a >>> liar, >>> and the truth is not in him. >>> >>> 1 John 3:22 >>> (22) And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his >>> commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. >>> >>> 1 John 3:24 >>> (24) And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in >>> him. >>> And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath >>> given >>> us. >>> >>> 1 John 5:2-3 >>> (2) By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, >>> and >>> keep his commandments. >>> (3) For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his >>> commandments are not grievous. >>> >>> Revelation 12:17 >>> (17) And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with >>> the >>> remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the >>> testimony of Jesus Christ. >>> Revelation 14:12 >>> (12) Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the >>> commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. >>> >>> You might plead lack of intelligence or that the Holy Spirit is not a >>> rationalist or any number of things, but it is quite simple and true >>> that >>> if >>> you do not keep the commandments, you are not in Christ. Here is the >>> reason >>> that you and I cannot understand one another concerning the >>> characteristics >>> of a believer in his apprehension of knowledge and truth. >>> >>> Please read the above passages seriously and don't just skip over them. >>> Those who believe in Jesus keep his commandments, and his commandments >>> are >>> not grevious. If you do not keep his commandments and you think >>> everyone >>> transgresses his commandments, not only are you wrong, but your eternal >>> fate >>> is in the balance. The judgment of hell fire is at your door despite >>> your >>> perspective of the Incarnation of Jesus Christ. >>> >>> David Miller >>> >>> ---------- >>> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may >>> know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) >>> http://www.InnGlory.org >>> >>> If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. 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