----- Message d'origine ----- De: "Peter Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On 28/07/2003 05:34, Karlj�rgen Feuerherm wrote: [earlier, vey nested, difficult to ascribe to one of the subscribers] > >>>England was never ruled by the French! Please! 1066 and all that stuff ! > >>> > > > >I dunno, William Conqueror the Duke of Normandy sounds pretty French to me :-) > >(Of course it's a good question when do 'France' and 'French' begin.) Usually said to begin with the Cap�tiens (987) and Hugues the First. Before that, people tend to speak of the Franks (Western Franks after the Strasbourg/Strassburg Oath). First historical record of � Fran�ais � (franceis) in 1080 (Chanson de Roland) means � Frank, nobleman or a subject of the King of France�. Other terms were also used : franc, francor (as a genitif : la langue francor), fran�al. > >2. I'm a 'French-speaking Canadian' and if you asked me, I'd tell you I was > >French. Because I am. So you can't ask 'any ....' > > > >(my contribution to this pedantic thread) > > > >K > > > > > I would never have guessed from your name! [PA] How about my name ? Patrick Andries (Irish and Dutch forms of Latin and Greek roots !) - o - 0 - 0 - o - Unicode en fran�ais http://pages.infinit.net/hapax

