At 22:12 -0800 2003-11-30, Peter Constable wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Michael Everson

What I haven't seen is clear evidence that the wa-phallaa is
considered to be related to nominal BA and not a distinct character
falling after LA.

WA has been added as a new independent letter, without a decomposition to O+BA, although its graphic appearance and simple phonetics shows us that it is an innovation based on that combination.

No, the graphic appearance and phonetics reassure is this is a plausible hypothesis; they don't show us this must be how it is.

Your suggestion that NYA could be involved is less plausible.


> If DBA = [dwa] surely OBA = [owa] > [wa]

But there's that underlying assumption which is what I have been questioning: is the written representation of /dwa/ really D.BA, or should it be considered D.WA?

It is traditionally, yes.


I still haven't seen clear evidence; only an assertion of the former based on a hypothesis that, granted, is certainly plausible.

I cited examples already:


k. + ba (wa) = kwa
j. + ba (va) = jva
dh. + ba (wa) = dhwa
m. + ba = mba
r. + ba = rba
sh. + ba = shba

But the more important question is how users and implementers, particularly those in India, will expect these conjuncts to be encoded, and that question remains. If I implement one thing and others another, we've got a problem.

I think we should avoid revisionist encodings, which will make it impossible to deal with older data.


I was hoping there might be some Indian -- Oriyan -- implementers or users lurking that might want to comment. If not, then there's not much more to say on this topic here. I'll try elsewhere;

I did order dictionaries so that I can help you.


in the meantime, I've got another similar question coming (encode based on sound or based on shapes?) involving some other conjuncts. I just need to get something scanned first.

:-) -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com



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