On 24 Jan 2008, at 19:27, Sivakatirswami wrote:

Ian Wood wrote:

On 21 Jan 2008, at 01:34, Sivakatirswami wrote:

1) Display of thumbnails of images in a folder in a "gallery" type window where images can be moved around, reordered, renamed, deleted etc. where the window, if resized. will scale the number of row and columns of thumbnails automatically (the app needs to scale nicely for a user on we 30 inch cinema display, and also run sweetly on a 15 inch MacBook Pro.

You're assuming it's all going to be JPEG images? What will you do if someone wants to shoot RAW?

Good question. If someone is shooting RAW, typically the setting can be set to include an adjacent JPG copy (we would require it)

True, RAW+JPEG could work. Just watch out - if the photographer isn't using the manufacturer's own RAW software the converted RAW files could end up looking quite different to the JPEGs. :-(

we would have the photographer, write captions against the jpgs, send us the entire shoot as 200 px wide thumbs... it can run as high as 400-600 shots for a 3-6 day gig...

Hmm. What I'm wondering is if there's too much re-invention of the wheel going on - why write yourself an app from scratch when there are existing apps such as Aperture, LightRoom or Photo Mechanic which are specifically designed for rapid sorting and tagging of images. If you *do* go down the route of building something yourself I'd have a good look at the SIPS (Simple Image Processing System) shell commands available in OS X - at a minimum you're going to have to make reduced size copies of all the images for the thumbnails as Rev simply can't cope with the pixel dimensions you are going to get from any current pro dSLR. SIPS can resize, crop, pad, rotate (increments of 90˚) and change file type. I think on later versions of 10.4 it will even produce JPEGs from RAW files as long as they are on the list of supported cameras for OS X.
<http://www.apple.com/aperture/raw/cameras.html>

My personal favourite is Aperture due to it's organisational strengths and a reasonable AppleScript dictionary, but it can be quite slow for some tasks and it's getting a fair amount of bad press at the moment.

but meanwhile we start comps and layout right away. Portfolio will have cataloged all the jpgs and we can pull up an index of the metadata for the entire shoot later, and then we only have to open the RAW files for those shots we know we are going to use when the disks finally arrive.

Sounds sensible. Use the lo-res placeholders and replace with full-res once they are available.

Have you ever tried doing photo selection on 200 Raw images!

I'm a photographer, who is also a programmer... ;-)

459 RAW images from the Malta conference got edited in the evenings and on the flight home:
<http://ianjameswood.co.uk/eurorevcon_2006/>

A panoramic photography conference in Berkeley, ~ 1200 RAW files, again mostly edited down in the evenings and on the way home, although there was quite a bit of work once I was home again:
<http://ianjameswood.co.uk/ivrpa/berkeley_report/>

The same for a panoramic meeting in Switzerland, ~2000 RAW files:
<http://ianjameswood.co.uk/ptm-luzern/report/>


Photographic workflows and automation are my special interest at the moment, feel free to email me off-list if you want to discuss things in more depth. I've also developed an extensive Rev library for Aperture-related automation.

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