Martin, post your shader "code" or formula and I will try to do it in RS.
I also wish that RS would show more on their website.
RS need to simplify and make GI faster.
I'd like to see more from other users.
Jean-Sebastien Perron
www.NeuroWorld.ws
On 10-11-06 06:17 AM, mengil...@gmx.net wrote:
@Jean-Sebastien: Well I surely don´t wanna dictate people to be unhappy with
RS3D. ;-)
But for me there are just so many loose ends.
Though I have to admit that there IS a shimmer of hope.
I don´t know, maybe I´m the only one who didn´t notice that.
Maybe it was written about on the list and I just didn´t read it?
Or may it be that it really wasn´t talked about?
What I mean is - Realsofts site now features some tutorial videos.
I just noticed it by chance when I was looking for something completely
different.
So there are now some basic tutorials, sadly without sound, but tutorials
nonetheless.
Did I really overlook an anouncement regarding that??
The news page contains an info about the new tutorials which dates back to
october the seventh.
I´m pretty much startled cause I could swear that this was not anounced on the
list.
If it was, people could already have gone to gather their tutorials to be
uploaded to the Realsoft site.
Could this perhaps even be why the Render Daemon was shut?
Because it´s material was to be integrated into the official Realsoft website?
Now I´m really hoping for a comment of one of the Realsoft crew to shed some
light on this.
Martin
PS:
Regarding my shader-try I should post a separate mail.
Cause as it seems I could really need some help on that.
I´ve already "converted" the formula into VSL-objects (most notably variables and
"operation" objects), but it doesn´t do what it´s supposed to. And doing this by hand
was, well, simply painfull.
I practically wasted a day for something that could be written in code in a
matter of minutes.
So I wanna try scripting, but my problem is that I don´t really understand the
syntax.
I´ve found some general mathematical javascript commands but RS3D seems to use different
ones; which I think to have found out by now, only to find that there don´t seem to be
floatingpoint commands like sine and cosine? I can´t really believe that, especially not
since they are implemented into the VSL "operation" object.
Another problem for me is that I don´t know how to plug equations like that
into the engine.
For example I need the input of Light: Ray and Surface: Ray, and don´t really
know how to get the data out of these channels to be used in the equations to
then pass the outcome on to the Surface: Illumination channel.
Oh, plus I don´t know how a VSL material would in general support mathematical
formulars written in a (java)script. Would the resulting material be useable as
a standalone VSL material or would it always need the script to be useable at
all?
However, I think I´ll just post a new message regarding that, as I wrote
several lines ago now. ;-)
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Datum: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 17:27:37 +1300
Von: "Neil Cooke"<n...@neilcookegraphics.co.nz>
An: user-list@light.realsoft3d.com
Betreff: Re: SDK/ sites down/ frustration/Realsoft
My rant ... Lol .....
I'm not out to startle ... I need the best illustration pencil I can get
for my clients. It's 3D CG, in my case RS. The guys still have to promote
their products ... they still need pix of their products ... 3D CG does this
better than photography in all but two cases.
Which 3D CG does it best is a silly question ... best fails because it is
fiction ... the only thing needed is that the pic get's done, and in any 3D
CG the pix will be totally OK.
N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jean-Sebastien Perron
To: user-list@light.realsoft3d.com
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: SDK/ sites down/ frustration/Realsoft
Maybe I can help you with your shader equation?
RS shading language is similar to Renderman shading language, they are
all the same.
Many docs and books have been written on the subject.
When I will redo my website next year, I will dust of the RS tutorial
section.
I will add new RS tutorials, this time to explain the 3D workflow with
www.CombadZ.com
It's true that the RS users are not that active anymore.
It's also true also for 80% of the 3D software, even povray is
abandoned (it's been out of touch with reality for 10 years now).
By now everybody knows how to do 3D from A to B. It's all over the
internet full of tutorials and books.
There is no way someone will come with a rendering that will impress us
anymore.
3D has become something boring as "hand-knit?"
Maybe because the 3D CG wow factor is gone : nobody will get close to
"Avatar"
Even the most basic CAD software today produce incredible images :
Autocad, Inventor, SolidWorks.
There is nothing special about us anymore.
Sorry but I'd rather play with my piss than play with particle/flow
again.
These things are as redundant as filming water.
They are like easter egg game inside 3D software : they are time waster.
When do you see particle in real life? when do you see reflections in
real life? Almost never.
Clothing and hair are also not moving in real life (95% of the time).
Avatar could have been made with RS.
What I have seen since 1989 in the 3D world : a lot of people trying and
abandoning.
Most people get frustrated quickly and blame the software for their lack
of will, imagination, talent and resourcefulness.
Sorry I get frustrated by particles, flow and physics in 3D software.
Recently I have met a young guy who wanted to 3D animation.
But instead he got stuck like most newcomers in playing with particles
endlessly totally hypnotised doing nothing else.
After 3 months of watching his numerous "Realflow" videos (look like
pissing on every kind of geometry possible) , he finally quit 3D.
Particles create spectacular animation without any effort nor planning.
It's good to wow yourself for a while, but eventually you will have to
produce something worth watching.
Blaming the powerful software we have nowadays is as ridiculous as
blaming a pen, a brush, sculpting knive for the poor result.
I don't care if I am the only one in the world using RS. I use it
because I like it.
I don't need the world to approve it. I don't need to know that RS is
the most trendy software.
80% of the world use Microsoft Windows, does that make it the best. Hell
no!
Yes , Martin you are 100% right and at the same time I don't see it as a
problem anymore.
Cinema 4Pay, is just the concept of selling a software in pieces at a
higher price.
And selling them their favorite videogame : particles.
As usual don't consider this rant too seriously. I'm probably just
trolling again ; )
Jean-Sebastien Perron
www.NeuroWorld.ws
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