Java 9 Module system looks really interesting. I would be very curious to
see how Cassandra would leverage that.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Kant Kodali <k...@peernova.com> wrote:

> I would agree with Eric with his following statement. In fact, I was
> trying to say the same thing.
>
> "I don't really have any opinions on Oracle per say, but Cassandra is a
> Free Software project and I would prefer that we not depend on
> commercial software, (and that's kind of what we have here, an
> implicit dependency)."
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 3:09 AM, Brice Dutheil <brice.duth...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Pretty much a non-story, it seems like.
>>
>> Clickbait imho. Search ‘The Register’ in this wikipedia page
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Potentially_unreliable_sources#News_media>
>>
>> @Ben Manes
>>
>> Agreed, OpenJDK and Oracle JDK are now pretty close, but there is still
>> some differences in the VM code and third party dependencies like security
>> libraries. Maybe that’s fine for some productions, but maybe not for
>> everyone.
>>
>> Also another thing, while OpenJDK source is available to all, I don’t
>> think all OpenJDK builds have been certified with the TCK. For example the
>> Zulu OpenJDK is, as Azul have access to the TCK and certifies
>> <https://www.azul.com/products/zulu/> the builds. Another example
>> OpenJDK build installed on RHEL is certified
>> <https://access.redhat.com/articles/1299013>. Canonical probably is
>> running TCK comliance tests as well on thei OpenJDK 8 since they are listed
>> on the signatories
>> <http://openjdk.java.net/groups/conformance/JckAccess/jck-access.html>
>> but not sure as I couldn’t find evidence on this; on this signatories list
>> again there’s an individual – Emmanuel Bourg – who is related to Debian
>> <https://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2015/01/msg00015.html> (linkedin
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/ebourg>), but not sure again the TCK is
>> passed for each build.
>>
>> Bad OpenJDK intermediary builds, i.e without TCK compliance tests, is a
>> reality
>> <https://github.com/docker-library/openjdk/commit/00a9c5c080f2a5fd1510bc0716db7afe06cbd017>
>> .
>>
>> While the situation has enhanced over the past months I’ll still double
>> check before using any OpenJDK builds.
>> ​
>>
>> -- Brice
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Voytek Jarnot <voytek.jar...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Reading that article the only conclusion I can reach (unless I'm
>>> misreading) is that all the stuff that was never free is still not free -
>>> the change is that Oracle may actually be interested in the fact that some
>>> are using non-free products for free.
>>>
>>> Pretty much a non-story, it seems like.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 11:55 PM, Kant Kodali <k...@peernova.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looking at this http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/12/16/oracle_targets_
>>>> java_users_non_compliance/?mt=1481919461669 I don't know why Cassandra
>>>> recommends Oracle JVM?
>>>>
>>>> JVM is a great piece of software but I would like to stay away from
>>>> Oracle as much as possible. Oracle is just horrible the way they are
>>>> dealing with Java in General.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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