The possibility of a highly available way to do this gives more challenges. I 
would be weighing the cost of a complex solution vs the possibility of a 
maintenance window when you stop your app to move the data, then restart.

For the straight copy of the data, I am currently enamored with DataStax’s 
dsbulk utility for unloading and loading larger amounts of data. I don’t have 
extensive experience, yet, but it has been fast enough in my experiments – and 
that is without doing too much tuning for speed. From a host not in the 
cluster, I was able to extract 3.5 million rows in about 11 seconds. I inserted 
them into a differently partitioned table in about 26 seconds. Very small data 
rows, but it was impressive for not doing much to try and speed it up further. 
(In some other tests, it was about ¼ the time of simple copy statement from 
cqlsh)

If I was designing something for a “can’t take an outage” scenario, I would 
start with:

-          Writing the data to the old and new tables on all inserts

-          On reads, read from the new table first. If not there, read from the 
old table <-- could introduce some latency, but would be available; could also 
do asynchronous reads on both tables and choose the latest

-          Do this until the data has been copied from old to new (with dsbulk 
or custom code or Spark)

-          Drop the double writes and conditional reads


Sean

From: Stefan Miklosovic <stefan.mikloso...@instaclustr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 6:39 PM
To: user@cassandra.apache.org
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Migrate large volume of data from one table to 
another table within the same cluster when COPY is not an option.

Hi Leena,

as already suggested in my previous email, you could use Apache Spark and 
Cassandra Spark connector (1). I have checked TTLs and I believe you should 
especially read this section (2) about TTLs. Seems like thats what you need to 
do, ttls per row. The workflow would be that you read from your source table, 
making transformations per row (via some mapping) and then you would save it to 
new table.

This would import it "all" but until you switch to the new table and records 
are still being saved into the original one, I am not sure how to cover "the 
gap" in such sense that once you make the switch, you would miss records which 
were created in the first table after you did the loading. You could maybe 
leverage Spark streaming (Cassandra connector knows that too) so you would make 
this transformation on the fly with new ones.

(1) 
https://github.com/datastax/spark-cassandra-connector<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_datastax_spark-2Dcassandra-2Dconnector&d=DwMFaQ&c=MtgQEAMQGqekjTjiAhkudQ&r=aC_gxC6z_4f9GLlbWiKzHm1vucZTtVYWDDvyLkh8IaQ&m=_DgzHjtyiXt4QUBiWPplE-cs_HMaVflC9fAK6I4TdpQ&s=mMB-uNoPbBBK9Zfn5WuDoKoF31IgSi1MXgNlYG7jhDE&e=>
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 00:13, Leena Ghatpande 
<lghatpa...@hotmail.com<mailto:lghatpa...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Understand, 2nd table would be a better approach. So what would be the best way 
to copy 70M rows from current table to the 2nd table with ttl set on each 
record as the first table?

________________________________
From: Durity, Sean R 
<sean_r_dur...@homedepot.com<mailto:sean_r_dur...@homedepot.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 8:17 AM
To: user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Migrate large volume of data from one table to 
another table within the same cluster when COPY is not an option.


Correct, there is no current flag. I think there SHOULD be one.





From: Dieudonné Madishon NGAYA <dmng...@gmail.com<mailto:dmng...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 7:17 PM
To: user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Migrate large volume of data from one table to another 
table within the same cluster when COPY is not an option.



Hi Sean, you can’t flag in Cassandra.yaml not allowing allow filtering , the 
only thing you can do will be from your data model .

Don’t ask Cassandra to query all data from table but the ideal query will be 
using single partition.



On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 6:46 PM Stefan Miklosovic 
<stefan.mikloso...@instaclustr.com<mailto:stefan.mikloso...@instaclustr.com>> 
wrote:

Hi Sean,



for sure, the best approach would be to create another table which would treat 
just that specific query.



How do I set the flag for not allowing allow filtering in cassandra.yaml? I 
read a doco and there seems to be nothing about that.



Regards



On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 06:57, Durity, Sean R 
<sean_r_dur...@homedepot.com<mailto:sean_r_dur...@homedepot.com>> wrote:

If there are 2 access patterns, I would consider having 2 tables. The first one 
with the ID, which you say is the majority use case.  Then have a second table 
that uses a time-bucket approach as others have suggested:

(time bucket, id) as primary key

Choose a time bucket (day, week, hour, month, whatever) that would hold less 
than 100 MB of data in the time-bucket partition.



You could include all relevant data in the second table to meet your query. OR, 
if that data seems too large or too volatile to duplicate, just include your 
primary key and look-up the data in the primary table as needed.



If you use allow filtering, you are setting yourself up for failure to scale. I 
tell my developers, “if you use allow filtering, you are doing it wrong.” In 
fact, I think the Cassandra admin should be able to set a flag in 
cassandra.yaml to not allow filtering at all. The cluster should be able to 
protect itself from bad queries.







From: Leena Ghatpande <lghatpa...@hotmail.com<mailto:lghatpa...@hotmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:02 AM
To: Stefan Miklosovic 
<stefan.mikloso...@instaclustr.com<mailto:stefan.mikloso...@instaclustr.com>>; 
user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Migrate large volume of data from one table to another 
table within the same cluster when COPY is not an option.



Our data model cannot be like below as you have recommended as majority of the 
reads need to select the data by the partition key (id) only, not by date.

You could remodel your data in such way that you would make primary key like 
this

((date), hour-minute, id)

or

((date, hour-minute), id)





By adding the date as clustering column, yes the idea was to use the Allow 
Filtering on the date and pull the records. Understand that it is not 
recommended to do this, but we have been doing this on another existing large 
table and have not run into any issue so far. But want to understand if there 
is a better approach to this?



Thanks



________________________________

From: Stefan Miklosovic 
<stefan.mikloso...@instaclustr.com<mailto:stefan.mikloso...@instaclustr.com>>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 7:12 PM
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Subject: Re: Migrate large volume of data from one table to another table 
within the same cluster when COPY is not an option.



The query which does not work should be like this, I made a mistake there



cqlsh> SELECT * from my_keyspace.my_table where  number > 2;

InvalidRequest: Error from server: code=2200 [Invalid query] message="Cannot 
execute this query as it might involve data filtering and thus may have 
unpredictable performance. If you want to execute this query despite the 
performance unpredictability, use ALLOW FILTERING"





On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 10:10, Stefan Miklosovic 
<stefan.mikloso...@instaclustr.com<mailto:stefan.mikloso...@instaclustr.com>> 
wrote:

Hi Leena,



"We are thinking of creating a new table with a date field as a clustering 
column to be able to query for date ranges, but partition key to clustering key 
will be 1-1. Is this a good approach?"



If you want to select by some time range here, I am wondering how would making 
datetime a clustering column help you here? You still have to provide primary 
key, right?



E.g. select * from your_keyspace.your_table where id=123 and my_date > 
yesterday and my_date < tomorrow (you got the idea)



If you make my_date clustering column, you cant not do this below, because you 
still have to specify partition key fully and then clustering key (optionally) 
where you can further order and do ranges. But you cant do a query without 
specifying partition key. Well, you can use ALLOW FILTERING but you do not want 
to do this at all in your situation as it would scan everything.



select * from your_keyspace.your_table where my_date > yesterday and my_date < 
tomorrow



cqlsh> create KEYSPACE my_keyspace WITH replication = {'class': 
'NetworkTopologyStrategy', 'dc1': '1'};

cqlsh> CREATE TABLE my_keyspace.my_table (id uuid, number int, PRIMARY KEY 
((id), number));



cqlsh> SELECT * from my_keyspace.my_table ;



 id                                   | number

--------------------------------------+--------

 6e23f79a-8b67-47e0-b8e0-50be78bb1c7f |      3

 abdc0184-a695-427d-b63b-57cdf7a45f00 |      1

 90fe112e-0f74-4cbc-8767-67bdc9c8c3b0 |      4

 8cff3eb7-1aff-4dc7-9969-60190c7e4675 |      2



cqlsh> SELECT * from my_keyspace.my_table where id = 
'6e23f79a-8b67-47e0-b8e0-50be78bb1c7f' and  number > 2;

InvalidRequest: Error from server: code=2200 [Invalid query] message="Invalid 
STRING constant (6e23f79a-8b67-47e0-b8e0-50be78bb1c7f) for "id" of type uuid"



cqlsh> SELECT * from my_keyspace.my_table where id = 
6e23f79a-8b67-47e0-b8e0-50be78bb1c7f and  number > 2;



 id                                   | number

--------------------------------------+--------

 6e23f79a-8b67-47e0-b8e0-50be78bb1c7f |      3



You could remodel your data in such way that you would make primary key like 
this



((date), hour-minute, id)



or



((date, hour-minute), id)



I would prefer the second one because if you expect a lot of data per day, they 
would all end up on same set of replicas as hash of partition key would be same 
whole day if you have same date all day so I think you would end up with 
hotspots. You want to have your data spread more evenly so the second one seems 
to be better to me.



You can also investigate how to do this with materialized view but I am not 
sure about the performance here.



If you want to copy data you can do this e.g. by Cassandra Spark connector, you 
would just read table and as you read it you would write to another one. That 
is imho the fastest approach and the least error prone. You can do that on live 
production data and you can just make a "switch" afterwards. Not sure about 
ttls but that should be transparent while copying that.



On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 03:04, Leena Ghatpande 
<lghatpa...@hotmail.com<mailto:lghatpa...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

We have a table with over 70M rows with a partition key that is unique.  We 
have a  created datetime stamp on each record, and we have a need to select all 
rows created for a date range. Secondary index is not an option as its high 
cardinality and could slow performance doing a full scan on 70M rows.



We are thinking of creating a new table with a date field as a clustering 
column to be able to query for date ranges, but partition key to clustering key 
will be 1-1. Is this a good approach?

To do this, we need to copy this large volume of data from table1 to table2 
within the same cluster, while updates are still happening to table1. We need 
to do this real time without impacting our customers. COPY is not an option, as 
we have ttl's on each row on table1 that need to be applied to table2 as well.



So what would be the best approach

  1.  To be able select data using date range without impacting performance. 
This operation will be needed only on adhoc basis and it wont be as frequent .
  2.  Best way to migrate large volume of data with ttl from one table to 
another within the same cluster.



Any other suggestions also will be greatly appreciated.






Stefan Miklosovic



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