Regarding this performance benchmarking. I still got memory problem. Kannel 
fails to release buffered or cached memory. Does anybody has tips to avoid this 
problem? Thanks.



sangprabv
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On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:12 PM, Rene Kluwen wrote:

> Why don’t you try it on your own system. Test with a MyIsam table and with 
> InnoDB.
> It will be easy to determine which one works faster for you.
>  
> == Rene
>  
> From: users-boun...@kannel.org [mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org] On Behalf Of 
> brett skinner
> Sent: Tuesday, 10 August, 2010 11:56
> To: Alejandro Guerrieri
> Cc: Users
> Subject: Re: Kannel performance benchmarking
>  
> Thanks for your feedback.
>  
> Guess it is the age old tao of computer science. Space vs Time, always space 
> vs time. :)
>  
> Regards,
> 
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Alejandro Guerrieri 
> <alejandro.guerri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh yes, I read that blog quite frequently :) There's a lot of stuff to say 
> about optimizing InnoDB, but it's definitely off-topic here and wouldn't fit 
> on a single email of course.
>  
> We've gone thru a series of optimization cycles on our platform and, with 
> respect to Kannel, ended up using MyIsam for DLR's. We don't have any locking 
> issues, the only detail is we need to be careful when expiring old entries to 
> do it in small batches and not on peak hours.
>  
> For the rest of our applications, except for small and mostly read-only 
> tables, we use InnoDB and while seems "slower" when you do a couple of 
> requests, it's a _lot_ faster if you are under heavy traffic because of the 
> row locking instead of table locking.
>  
> Anyway, there's no a one-size-fits-all solution and if you really need to 
> sustain heavy traffic I'd recommend you do a lot of profiling and find the 
> bottlenecks either on the DB and the rest of your platform.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Alex
>  
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:15 AM, brett skinner <tatty.dishcl...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> Hi Alex
>  
> That is why I have chosen Innodb for the tables we use for the application 
> that surround Kannel. MyISAM definitely beat Innodb out the box but Innodb 
> does seem to be better in terms of the issues you have pointed out. The other 
> thing that I have read is that Innodb is incredibly slow with the stock 
> standard configuration. I read through the following blog and followed their 
> advice which increased its performance quite drastically.
>  
> http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2007/11/01/innodb-performance-optimization-basics/
>  
> If you have a moment you can give that a read. Or if you have any other good 
> references please send them a long. I am still rather new to MySql. Thanks :)
>  
> Regards,
>  
> 
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Alejandro Guerrieri 
> <alejandro.guerri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, if it weren't for the SELECT COUNT(*) slowness would be my preferred 
> option here as well. Despite seeming "slower" at first (specially on small 
> tables) InnoDB performs row-locking on index-based queries, which indeed 
> improves things quite a bit on big tables with lots of simultaneous reads and 
> writes.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Alex
>  
> 
> 2010/8/10 Nikos Balkanas <nbalka...@gmail.com>
> Indeed. InnoDB is much slower overall compared to MyIsam. However, it has its 
> use for some jobs (archive_logs, hot backups, etc.)
> 
> The figures I gave were sustained rates simulated with a 10000-SMS batch. 
> Count was sufficient to reach sustainability and reproducibility, yet short 
> enough to get results fast.
> 
> When i submitted fakesmpp, I also released similar data from a 64bit Solaris 
> 10 server.
> 
> BR,
> Nikos
> ----- Original Message ----- From: alejandro.guerri...@gmail.com
> To: brett skinner ; users-boun...@kannel.org ; us...@kannel. us...@kannel. Org
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:21 AM
> 
> Subject: Re: Kannel performance benchmarking
> 
> 
> Brett,
> 
> The DLR engine uses SELECT COUNT(*) from the admin interface, which is 
> painfully slow on InnoDB for moderately big tables.
> 
> While InnoDB would theoretically be the best option, MyIsam performs quite 
> better in this case.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alex
> BlackBerry de movistar, allν donde estιs estα tu oficin@
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: brett skinner <tatty.dishcl...@gmail.com>
> Sender: users-boun...@kannel.org
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:13:54 +0200
> To: Users<users@kannel.org>
> Subject: Re: Kannel performance benchmarking
> 
> 
> Hi Nikos
> 
> 
> Thanks for the extra information. What was the motivation for using MyISAM? 
> My reading lead me to believe that MyISAM was not that well suited for 
> interleaved reads and writes due to table locking which is why I opted to use 
> InnoDB. From what I assumed about how Kannel worked is that reading/writing 
> to the DLR table would be interleaved. I may be quite badly mistaken and 
> might perhaps need to switch to MyISAM as a few others have recommended.
> 
> 
> In your opinion what should Kannel be able to handle sustained (assuming 
> normal business hours)? And what should Kannel be able to burst to? I know 
> some of these questions are a bit like how long is a piece of string but I 
> really do value all and any of your feedback.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 2010/8/10 Nikos Balkanas <nbalka...@gmail.com>
> 
> Try valgrind in linux.
> 
> BR,
> Nikos
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "sangprabv" <sangpr...@gmail.com>
> To: "Nikos Balkanas" <nbalka...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "brett skinner" <tatty.dishcl...@gmail.com>; "kannel users" 
> <users@kannel.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:35 AM
> 
> Subject: Re: Kannel performance benchmarking
> 
> 
> Yeah I understand that. But when the there is no traffic. Kannel doesn't 
> release the cached or buffered memory it used.  Do you have any solution? 
> What command to list down or trace the memory usage by Kannel? So maybe we 
> can investigate which function or module in Kannel is eating the memory. 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 
> sangprabv
> sangpr...@gmail.com
> http://www.petitiononline.com/froyo/
> 
> 
> On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:19 PM, Nikos Balkanas wrote:
> 
> 
> No memory problems. It is reasonable that kannel will use more memory in 
> higher traffic, since all queues are in memory, as long as it drops to 
> nominal levels once the traffic is gone.
> 
> BR,
> Nikos
> ----- Original Message ----- From: sangprabv
> To: brett skinner
> Cc: Nikos Balkanas ; kannel users
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 5:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Kannel performance benchmarking
> 
> 
> Hi Nikos,
> Do you experience memory problem? In my case Kannel is eating the memory on 
> high load traffics. I always need to restart the box to get more memory. I 
> even give 3 on /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches but still Kannel eat the memory :(
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> sangprabv
> sangpr...@gmail.com
> http://www.petitiononline.com/froyo/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 9, 2010, at 9:42 PM, brett skinner wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Nikos
> 
> Out of curiosity can you go into more detail regarding what hardware you were 
> running and your setup for MySql? Were you using Innodb or MyIsam. If you 
> were using Innodb did you make any other configuration changes to MySql to 
> accommodate Innodb.
> 
> From the user guide it is implied that the bottle neck for Kannel is the 
> number of messages that the SMSC can accommodate per second. Is this still 
> the case?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 2010/8/8 Nikos Balkanas <nbalka...@gmail.com>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have run some benchmarking for a client using fakesmpp. Using the default 
> service for MO's I got:
> 
> MO's: 1400 SMS/s
> MT + DLRs (internal): 747 SMS/s
> MT + DLRs (MySql): 434 SMS/s
> 
> BR,
> Nikos
> ----- Original Message ----- From: ha...@aeon.pk
> To: kannel users
> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 4:22 PM
> Subject: Kannel performance benchmarking
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I am interested to know about the kannel performance benchmarking, especially 
> in terms of speed (msgs/sec), MO or MT. I assume that multiple smsboxes does 
> not have any effect over kannel performance, since the front-end talking to 
> SMSC is the main bearerbox. What is the max speed that could be attained by 
> kannel and/or bearerbox?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Hamza
>  
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