On 12/29/2012 05:43 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Jim wrote:

Alternatively, you could try using the network service instead:
    sudo systemctl start network.service
I don't want to use NetworkManager, have deleted it. ( Please don't
bring up NetworkManager any more,  It is against my religion to even
talk about it)  My Religion is A PISS OFF NETWORKMANAGER USER.

I have eth0 ethernet working.

Now I want to get the Wireless card working on this laptop.
But when I try to reboot to load Wireless , the Network won't start, it
FAILs .
Why don't you try the network service, as I suggested above?
It is not the same as NetworkManager.
I did that but Network won't start for wlan0.
But it will start for eth0 eathernet.

Before you do that you could try
   sudo iwlist scan
to see if any access points are actually accessible.

iwlist scan , does show my Router



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