On 04/01/18 11:31, Marek Czernek wrote: > Hi Mark, > > I think this is a great idea. Before doing any brainstorming though, I > wonder about the following: > > 1. Who'd be the target audience? And what skill level would you want to > target? Any pre-requisites?
The short version is whatever the Tomcat community (i.e. the members of this list) would find most useful. Possible examples that come to mind are: - an introductory course for an experienced sysadmin that knows nothing about Tomcat - in depth trouble-shooting But rather than just my random ideas, I'd love to hear what the community wants. > 2. Should it be purely Tomcat, or do you want to talk about various > frameworks that integrate with Tomcat in some manner? (Hibernate > comes to mind, for example) This is is easy. Purely Tomcat. > 3. What goals would you like to achieve? I.e., would you want to create > a course for a community and potential future contributors, or would > your goal be a course for experts to get things done asap? Imho > those two goals require different approaches. If the answer is > 'both', that could be sub-optimal (though understandable). Or do you > imagine completely different goal(s)? My original thinking was training for end users of any/all levels. However, if there was interest we could add some modules on how to become a contributor, committer, PMC member etc. > My main question is 'WHY'. What is the hole we're trying to fill in. Do > you want people to have quick yet quite deep understanding of basic > concepts and fundamentals? Do you want people to be more excited about > Tomcat? Do you want to shed light on an obscure integration pattern that > is highly useful? Do you want to create a certification that would be > beneficial for job interviews? Some of the answers might be > complimentary, but a lot of them are almost opposite to each other, imho. Why? Because I think that there is a community demand for this. I once ran a Tomcat training course at ApacheCon for which I did ZERO marketing (the only marketing was that it was listed as an option when registering - and an expensive option at that) and ~15 people signed up. I want to help people understand how to use Tomcat. Hopefully, a side-effect will be that even more great people show up here. I'm not interested in creating a certification or anything similar. HTH explain my thinking. Mark > > > On 01/04/2018 11:16 AM, Mark Thomas wrote: >> Hi, >> >> One of the things on my TODO list is to put together some Tomcat >> training material licensed under the Apache License (version 2). i.e. >> material that would be made freely available for folks to use. >> >> I'd also like to make the training material available on YouTube as well >> as run some training courses (for a small fee) to deliver the material >> face to face. >> >> The structure I have in mind is a series of modules (say 30 mins in >> length) that can be organised in different ways to suit different needs. >> e.g. put the introductory modules for each area together to provide an >> 'Introduction to Tomcat course', put all the TLS modules together to >> provide an in depth 'Tomcat and TLS' course etc. >> >> I think a lot of the raw content is already available. We have the >> various Tomcat presentations that have been given over the years and my >> employer has agreed to let me make use of the material from our (now >> possibly a little dated) Tomcat training courses. >> >> I can't do this alone. Not in any reasonable time frame anyway. So I am >> reaching out to the community for help. >> >> The first step is to come with: >> - a list of modules >> - potential courses formed from combinations of modules >> >> I am asking for your ideas for modules, courses and combinations of >> modules that could make up those courses. >> >> We have a blank wiki page to host this: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TOMCAT/Tomcat+Training+Course >> >> Feel free to ask for edit access to that page (you'll need to create an >> account and let us know the user name) so you can add ideas directly or >> add ideas to this thread and I'll add them to the wiki page. >> >> The second step is to start populating the modules with actual content. >> As a motivator to get this done, I'd like to run a public Tomcat >> training course in late March / early April using this material. My >> current thinking is that the course would cost ~£100 plus food per >> person for the full day. Possible locations for this course are: >> - Cardiff >> - Birmingham >> - Manchester >> - Glasgow >> (all in the UK - if successful we can expand to mainland Europe and >> beyond) >> >> My second request is for feedback on which location(s) are preferable >> and what content would you like to see in the training course. I'll take >> this feedback, put together a course and then make it available to book. >> >> I look forward to all your ideas. >> >> Mark >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
