Thanks for clarifying. Sound like you are caught between a rock and a
hard place.
Good luck.
Charl Gerber wrote:
Costs - the only way I can get a private Tomcat JVM in
South Africa, is dedicated hosting. Ie, renting a
complete machine. Costs are about 10x as much as
shared VM.
As I said, I have a private VM at a US based account
and it works beautifully, but in South Africa (where
the app MUST be hosted), we do not have that option
without very high costs.
--- Gabe Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am not sure how a private JVM on a VPS or on a
regular shared OS can
be more difficult than the challenges you are
facing with the present shared JVM. A shared JVM is
good for a very
basic JSP/Servlet application. However by its nature
(shared), you will not be able to do certain
configurations required for
more complex applications because that is only
possible
on your own private installation or instance.
Remember on a shared JVM,
you as well as others are using the same application
server instance and
JVM.
So image if everyone is able to make changes on the
global configuration
file e.g. server.xml,etc.
Charl Gerber wrote:
I currently DO have my own Tomcat server, but the
application is now moved to South Africa (site for
a
business over there, makes it a lot faster for the
users who will 99% be based in SA) and Tomcat
hosting
alone is difficult, leave alone a private JVM.
--- Ken Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Why not move your hosting to an isp who provides
a
vps?
Then you get complete control of your own tomcat;
the whole thing looks and
feels like you have your own server, even though
you
are sharing the
physical machine.:w
The prices I've seen are comparable to those
where
you have to share
your tomcat.
My 2 cents...
Ken Bowen
Charl Gerber wrote:
Turns out datasource configuration is not
possible
using Plesk as a shared tomcat server, the guys
at
Plesk themselves told me.
That sucks. Means I have to create and manage
the
Datasource in my app... minor refactoring, but
not
a
nice way of doing it. I also use hibernate and
could
only get that working by defining its own
connection
pooling. So now I have two pools :((
--- Pid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Charl Gerber wrote:
Hi,
I just moved my hosting from a provider where
I
had a
private Tomcat server with complete control
over
it to
a provider that uses Plesk and I share the
Tomcat
server with other users. The provider has no
Tomcat
knowledge in house and the Tomcat service is
rarely
used, so they couldn't help me with this
problem.
which version of tomcat?
I want to create a jdbc datasource for my
application.
If we manually create it in server.xml, the
provider
claims that the changes are overwritten and
removed
every time someone uploads a new .war file.
(Is
this
true?)
AFAIK, server.xml is not altered by war file
deployments.
Tomcat would need to be restarted in order that
those alterations to
server.xml are evaluated.
I also do not want to define the datasource as
eg a global resource, as it would mean the
other
users
of the tomcat server can get access to my
database.
I tried to configure the datasource in the
context.xml
of my application and put it in my .war file.
This
works fine on my development server, but when
uploaded
to the Tomcat server with Plesk, a server.xml
entry
for my application is created without the
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