2001-11-27

But, I'll bet some people still think it exists.  I have a feeling that
those who subscribe to the BWMA in some way, shape or form still feel a
strong nostalgia for the empire.

Metric and Europe are seen as forces that remind Britain that the empire is
dead.  To counter these forces, people who have this nostalgia do everything
in their power to promote English and to resist metric and the European
Union.  To the empirists, it is grand when the British can rule and give
orders, it is defeat if the British are ruled over and take orders from some
other source, especially if those sources contains elements that were in
competition with the old empire, namely France and Germany.

The loyalists to the empire are mostly old has-beens and young wanna be
has-beens!

John







----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, 2001-11-27 13:42
Subject: [USMA:16433] Re: More metric items


> There's been no such thing as the British Empire for over thirty years,
> Jim!!
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Elwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 4:59 PM
> Subject: [USMA:16428] Re: More metric items
>
>
> > I mentioned "English citizen" only in an informal sense. I probably
meant
> > "someone who has lived or lives in England," as I do not know if
> > "digestive" is used in a similar fashion in all of the British empire
> > (i.e., Scotland, Wales, ....). (If I am using "British empire"
improperly
> > as a synonym for "United Kingdom," no doubt list members will correct
me.)
> >
> > BTW, the package that was labeled "digestive" has a description of
> "wheaten
> > biscuits, half covered with real milk chocolate." In the interest of
> > science, I opened the package and tried them. Very much like animal
> > crackers with chocolate frosting.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > At 05:01 AM 11/27/2001 -0800, Bill Potts wrote:
> > >Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > >
> > >P.S.  There is no such thing as an English citizen.
> > >People from the UK are British citizens (not British
> > >Subjects, by the way), as are people from Scotland,
> > >Wales, and Northern Ireland.
> > >
> > >You're both right and wrong.
> > >
> > >Regarding legal status, it's British citizen. However, citizen isn't
> > >exclusively a legal term and has a total of 10 definitions (OED).
> > >
> > >in the more general sense (and, in fact, the primary one), one can be
an
> > >English citizen, a citizen of London, a citizen of New York, and so on.
> > >
> > >I always look on myself as a citizen of the world, although legally I'm
> both
> > >a British and a Canadian citizen.
> > >
> > >Bill Potts, CMS
> > >Roseville, CA
> > >http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
> >
>

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