Harold:
ironically, the EU has deregulated package sizing, making ‘standard’ sizing
harder to find, thus making unit pricing much more essential. And I can assure
you it DOES work, even between stores, as, using metric values, the units are
essentially the same (usually either per kg or per 100 g for items measured by
weight, or per L or mL for fluid items).
For example, as a rough guide, I know that here in the UK cheese usually comes
out at around £7/kg (or £0.70/100 g), but can range from £4/kg for a low cost
cheese in Aldi to say £12/kg or more for a specialty cheese in Waitrose. With
that as a ‘yardstick’, I can make an assessment as to the value of an
individual cheese in an individual store using unit pricing.
John F-L
From: Harold_Potsdamer
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 2:15 AM
To: U.S. Metric Association
Cc: cont...@metricpioneer.com ; kenneth.butc...@nist.gov ;
david.sef...@nist.gov
Subject: [USMA:53994] Re: State by State Metrication
I’m not a big fan of unit pricing, as I don’t see it as an effective means of
price comparisons. Yes, you can compare the price of brand A to brand B in the
same store, but what about the price of the same brand between stores?
I would rather see standard product sizes in increments of some rounded metric
amount as one would find in a normal metric country.
From: mechtly, eugene a
Sent: Tuesday, 2014-06-17 11:56
To: U.S. Metric Association
Cc: cont...@metricpioneer.com ; kenneth.butc...@nist.gov ;
david.sef...@nist.gov
Subject: [USMA:53990] Re: State by State Metrication
David Sefcik cites an article in the New York Times that several major
retailers have agreed to incorporate Unit Pricing in their Web advertising.
The attorney general of the State of New York is leading this initiative.
We all know the major defect of legislation in the State of New York which
*requires* units from outside the SI in the denominators of Unit Prices, which
preclude value comparisons by little more that easy mental arithmetic.
Merchants like this obstacle to value comparisons by consumers!
What can Howard Ressel do to correct this defect in the Unit Pricing law in the
State of New York?
Eugene Mechtly
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From: John M. Steele [jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:08 AM
To: mechtly, eugene a; U.S. Metric Association
Cc: cont...@metricpioneer.com
Subject: Re: [USMA:53985] Re: State by State Metrication
The bigger problem is "50 States = 50 Ways." Eventually, the Feds would have
to step in to restore some order. However, I have no problem using it
temporarily as a "cattle prod" to get the Feds moving on metrication; nothing
else has worked.
On Monday, June 16, 2014 9:58 PM, "mechtly, eugene a" <mech...@illinois.edu>
wrote:
On Jun 16, 2014, at 8:33 PM, wrote:
The problem with state by state legislation is that some states already
*require*
units outside the SI for Unit Pricing, while even the current FPLA is
silent of the units of measurement that may or must be used in Unit Pricing.
Eugene Mechtly
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From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [owner-u...@colostate.edu] on behalf of
cont...@metricpioneer.com [cont...@metricpioneer.com]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 10:55 AM
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:53983] State by State Metrication
Yes indeed, Thank you Don.
With 110 names on our list, one would think that those 110 people probably
live in at least ten or perhaps even twenty or so states. We have state
metrication legislation pending in Hawaii (HB36). We have state metrication
legislation pending in Oregon (LC44). Please consider introducing state
metrication legislation in your state too so we can give momentum to this
trend. I know that some may argue against this state-by-state strategy, and I
agree that a federal mandate would be preferable, but a federal mandate seems
unlikely in light of the current gridlock in Congress. Even though a
state-by-state metrication legislation strategy may not be ideal, at least it
sends a message that some Americans in some states want metrication. Who knows?
It just might work. I say we give it a try. What say you? Please consider
introducing metrication legislation in YOUR state.
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 13:18:35 +0000
From: "Ressel, Howard R (DOT)" <howard.res...@dot.ny.gov>
Reply-To: howard.res...@dot.ny.gov
Subject: [USMA:53982] Re: Rejoining USMA
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu>
Probably a good time to thank Don for coordinating this list for all
these years, I think we sometimes forget he is the quite guy keeping it going
and thanks to Colorado State for hosting.
I agree, unless we hit some sort of server limit to the number of users,
the more the merrier even if they just listen in.
From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On
Behalf Of Harold_Potsdamer
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2014 12:25 AM
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:53973] Re: Rejoining USMA
But how many actually post? Why sign up if you have no intention to
post?
Do you drop people off who don’t post a message after a fixed amount of
time?
From:Hillger,Donald
Sent: Sunday, 2014-06-15 00:05
To:U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:53970] Re: Rejoining USMA
About 110 names.
From:owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf
Of cont...@metricpioneer.com
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 21:55
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:53969] Re: Rejoining USMA
Welcome back! I am curious. Approximately how many are on the USMA list?
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 23:04:09 -0400
From: Bill Hooper <billhoope...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: billhoope...@gmail.com
Subject: [USMA:53968] Rejoining USMA
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu>
Have been away for some time and am now rejoining the USMA list.
Bill
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