VACList Digest Wednesday, December 18 2002 Volume 03 : Number 046
When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary Digest text To unsubscribe or change to an e-mail format, please go to http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html Topics in Today's Digest: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager Re: [VACList] Question about 1948 Airstream Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager RE: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager [VACList] Generators [VACList] Bathroom Re-install Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager Re: [VACList] Question about 1948 Airstream [VACList] Courtesy Parking: Pending Re: [VACList] Courtesy Parking: Pending Re: [VACList] Courtesy Parking: Pending Re: [VACList] Generators Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager [VACList] Brake controlers Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:14:19 -0500 From: "Dick Parins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager I understand that the Tekonsha Prodigy or the Hayes Lemmerz with remote are generally preferred by members of the VACList but I am wondering if anyone can share their experience with the Tekonsha Voyager and/or Envoy on a small trailer. Thanks. Dick '62 Bambi - -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 08:44:46 -0800 From: "Liz Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Question about 1948 Airstream Hi Tuna, We are located in Colorado Springs, CO. Wow! Sounds like we've got our work cut out for us, eh? Had no idea about the suspension, but am hoping that once we get down into the flooring that we find not much needs to be replaced (crossing my fingers!). The trailer had been used as a hunting trailer for many years (can also be judged be the kerosene lamps through out the trailer), and then bought by a woman in Pueblo who then had it just sit on her property. In '97 the heater I suppose exploded and the fire extinquished itself, but not before causing damamge to the wall that was supporting it, as well as the closets and upper cabinets above the sink (the heater was placed dangerously close to the fold out couch they had added - we will probably just take it out all together). All of that will need replacing, but we were happy to find that the charcoal ceiling near where the heater is (was) comes clean with 409 and/or oven cleaner (I've heard natures orange works wonders as well). This has been our American dream for a long time, and although it will be an on going and long process, I keep thinking of the results and that keeps us going (gosh, and we've only put about 6 hours into it so far!) Have no pictures yet, but will post as soon as I get my film developed in my camera (took many before and after sweeping/cleaning pics). Take care! And I'd love to see your '48 Trailwind if you by chance had any pictures to post :) Best regards, Liz >From: "Tuna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [VACList] Question about 1948 Airstream >Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:43:34 -0800 > >Hi, Liz - > >Congratulations on your new acquisition - is there some place you can post >some pictures of it? >My '48 Trailwind (19') had been 'rode hard and put away wet' over the >years, >and had ended up as a 'party annex' to some frat house at the U of Montana. >So i gutted it completely, and in the course of doing so made some >discoveries... mine came with an original (1948) rear-bath - a 4'x2' >enamelled steel tub and no holding tank - they drained all the graywater >directly onto the ground. It also had a Sears glass-lined water tank and a >little 12v 'aquarium' pump to pressurize the water system. Previous-owner >'modifications' included a tire blow-out, a bent axle, a ruptured propane >line, and an exploded water heater with accompanying charring around the >resulting hole in the floor. > >I'm in the process of constructing a new frame to accomodate the original >'pipe' and a brand new henschen axle/suspension. >I plan to plumb in freshwater and graywater 'tanks' of my own design, and a >blackwater tank, as well. > >'restoration' of a '48 airstream requires some re-thinking of some >fundamentals... there really was no 'frame' (as such), and the original >leaf-spring suspension will have certainly lost its 'spring'. When you get >into it a bit, you may find that in some places the floor won't support the >weight of a large dog or a small human, much less a refrigerator or bed, >and >that the absence of a frame under the floor will make 'floor repair' just >about impossible. Not trying to discourage you - it's just that the >immediate postwar years of trailer-manufacture used 'minimalist >engineering'... they didn't hold up nearly as well as the trailers from the >early '50's on... > >VAC founder Bud Cooper did an astonishing restoration/renovation of his '49 >Clipper, and inspired me to do much the same. > >whereabouts are you located? > >Tuna >Reno, NV > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Liz Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:18 PM >Subject: [VACList] Question about 1948 Airstream > > > Hi there! > > > > I am new to this list, and a new owner of a 1948 Airstream Liner >Tradewind > > 22' trailer (my husband and I picked the trailer on Saturday!). I was > > looking through the archives of the VAC list, trying to figure out the > > original layout of the Airstream, as sometime between the manufacture >date > > and now the past owners took out the bed in the back and put in a >bathroom > > instead. It also looks as if some of the appliances were replaced in the > > 50's or 60's and a wall heater was added (as well as cabinets were >replaced > > with a fold out couch). My husband and I would like to restore our >trailer > > to the original layout and try to find as many original parts as >possible >in > > our restoration process, can anyone help with idea's on how to replace >the > > existing bathroom with a bed again? Or might this damage the trailer > > further? Thanks so much and have a wonderful day! > > > > Best regards, > > > > Elizabeth > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > >To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to >http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:00:11 -0700 From: "RD Ulansky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager Hi Dick, The dealers up here, at least 4 I've talked to said the prodigy was a overkill and the voyager is more than adequate. They have been installing them for years with no trouble. ps up here is in B.C. Canada. Ron, 63 bambi >From: "Dick Parins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager >Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:14:19 -0500 > >I understand that the Tekonsha Prodigy or the Hayes Lemmerz with >remote are generally preferred by members of the VACList but I am >wondering if anyone can share their experience with the Tekonsha >Voyager and/or Envoy on a small trailer. Thanks. > >Dick >'62 Bambi >-- >__________________________________________________________ >Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com >http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > >Meet Singles >http://corp.mail.com/lavalife > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > >To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to >http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:17:42 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager - --openmail-part-15e2e421-00000001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline ;Creation-Date="Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:17:42 -0800" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We've used the Voyager for 2 seasons now, towing our 17' Caravel all over the western US. It has performed flawlessly with that size trailer, and looks like it will do fine with our 22' Flying Cloud, too. The pendulum mech doesn't need to be level, and the initial adjustment using the indicator LED is a piece of cake. Best of luck, RJ > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:14 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager > > > I understand that the Tekonsha Prodigy or the Hayes Lemmerz with > remote are generally preferred by members of the VACList but I am > wondering if anyone can share their experience with the Tekonsha > Voyager and/or Envoy on a small trailer. Thanks. > > Dick > '62 Bambi > - --openmail-part-15e2e421-00000001-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:13:59 -0700 From: "Randy Unter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Generators Which model Honda is liquid cooled? Where'd you get it? I didn't see one at Northern Tool. Randy Unter Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 00:07:37 -0800 From: Rik & Susan Beeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] FW: Vermont/Generators I have one, they are the best. Bite the bullet and buy the bigger one. 50% more power for maybe 15% more money? A no-brainer, IMHO. Best regards, and Merry Christmas to all, Rik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >. I am replacing with a Honda RV >generator it is pricey but I think it will fill the bill. It is a twin cyl >liquid cooledVery compact I am torn between the 4000 watt and the 6000 watt >the price diff is $500 >Jim Smith > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:59:42 +0000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VACList] Bathroom Re-install I'm getting ready to re-install my repainted bathroom parts for my '69 Overlander, but I have a problem. The molded cabinet/shelf unit (with the sliding doors) that attaches to the tub on the street side seems to be about 1/2 inch shorter than when I took it out. (What can I say?) When I line up the old rivet holes on the tub with that unit, the holes that line up on the top to attach to the ABS inner lining have about the space of a 1x2 (sideways). Nothing on the floor was removed except the carpet (replaced w/vinyl) and the "box" under the tub is original. Does anyone have a picture they can e-mail to me of how this part is connected? I haven't been able to find one with this detail. Thanks so much in advance....you guys are great. - -- Gary Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://murrell.topcities.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:26:54 -0500 From: "Jim Dunmyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager Dick, The Prodigy is far better than the Voyager. I've had both, and wouldn't consider the latter under any circumstances. It isn't like the price difference is hundreds of dollars, either. Your safety and peace of mind is worth the small difference. <<Jim>> <<http://www.oldengine.org/members/jdunmyer>> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> <<lower SE Michigan, USA>> <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> - -----Original Message----- From: Dick Parins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:53 AM Subject: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager >I understand that the Tekonsha Prodigy or the Hayes Lemmerz with >remote are generally preferred by members of the VACList but I am >wondering if anyone can share their experience with the Tekonsha >Voyager and/or Envoy on a small trailer. Thanks. > >Dick >'62 Bambi >-- >__________________________________________________________ >Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com >http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > >Meet Singles >http://corp.mail.com/lavalife > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > >To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to >http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:47:32 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager Greetings Dick! I have the Tekonsha Voyager in my '99 Suburban mainly because my Airstream dealer only handles Tekonsha products in the brake controller line. It is perfectly adequate, and I really don't have a single complaint with the unit. I do miss the convenience of the remote control that I have with the Hayes-Lemmerz Micro Control HD-Plus that is in my Cadillac and the earlier version of the same controller that I have in my '65 Dodge. For the difference in cost (about $40.00), I would choose the Hayes Lemmerz with remote control if the mounting point for the controller were the least bit inconvenient. In my Suburban, it is fairly easy to reach the Tekonsha Voyager so it hasn't been a problem; however, in my Cadillac and Dodge the mounting point is so low on the dash as to preculde a quick easy reach in an emergency. After experiencing an emergency with my '82 Pontiac Bonneville while towing an '18 foot Nomad with an inconvenient controller location, I have insisted upon either a remote control or a controller that can be located inconspicuously on the dash. Kevin Allen WBCCI/VAC #6359 1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban 1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible (Towcar-In-Training) > I understand that the Tekonsha Prodigy or the Hayes Lemmerz with > remote are generally preferred by members of the VACList but I am > wondering if anyone can share their experience with the Tekonsha > Voyager and/or Envoy on a small trailer. Thanks. > > Dick > '62 Bambi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:25:46 -0500 From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Question about 1948 Airstream I believe that Bud Cooper, the founder of the VAC owns a '48 Liner. While much of the trailer is not original, he may be able to give you some insight as to what was there. I don't think that he is on this list. You can contact him directly at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott Scheuermann '60 Overlander - ----- Original Message ----- > I am new to this list, and a new owner of a 1948 Airstream Liner Tradewind > 22' trailer (my husband and I picked the trailer on Saturday!). I was > looking through the archives of the VAC list, trying to figure out the > original layout of the Airstream, as sometime between the manufacture date > and now the past owners took out the bed in the back and put in a bathroom > instead. It also looks as if some of the appliances were replaced in the > 50's or 60's and a wall heater was added (as well as cabinets were replaced > with a fold out couch). My husband and I would like to restore our trailer > to the original layout and try to find as many original parts as possible in > our restoration process, can anyone help with idea's on how to replace the > existing bathroom with a bed again? Or might this damage the trailer > further? Thanks so much and have a wonderful day! > > Best regards, > > Elizabeth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:34:53 -0500 From: Matt Worner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Courtesy Parking: Pending Well Twinkie People, It's official. The Worners will be opening a courtesy parking site in Sedan, NM within the next 2 years. Closing (by mail) was completed today and we are now deeper in hock. (Spending money like we've got it is the main reason we don't.) Looking forward to opening a Southwest branch of the Airstream Rescue Foundation in that 4500 square foot barn. See photos and realtor brochure at: http://community.webshots.com/user/wornmatt in the NM Homestead folder. Don't pack just yet, but eventually Y'ALL COME! Matt - -- Pam, Matt and Darrell Worner WBCCI, VAC, WNJU & WDCU #4971 1975 31' Sovereign (The Tinsel Tubesteak) 1976 24' Argosy rear door (The Bun Metallica) 1957 16' Bubble (The Tin 'Tater Tot) 2000 F-350 PSD Hensley Arrow ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:24:21 -0800 From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Courtesy Parking: Pending Hi Matt, Nice photos on your home page. Your homestead looks beautiful and isolated. I have a brother in law in NE New Mexico. He has a ranch in Clayton. I don't know how far that is from Sedan but I thought I'd just toss it out. He's a judge and a 60's hippie leftover. Great combo. Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com 66 Airstream Safari Mira Mar Mobile Park Oceanside, CA - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Worner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "List, Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "List, VAC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lupien, Debbie & Roy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Miro, Elisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Moore, Wayne A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:34 PM Subject: [VACList] Courtesy Parking: Pending > Well Twinkie People, It's official. The Worners will be opening a > courtesy parking site in Sedan, NM within the next 2 years. Closing (by > mail) was completed today and we are now deeper in hock. (Spending > money like we've got it is the main reason we don't.) > > Looking forward to opening a Southwest branch of the Airstream Rescue > Foundation in that 4500 square foot barn. > > See photos and realtor brochure at: > > http://community.webshots.com/user/wornmatt > > in the NM Homestead folder. > > Don't pack just yet, but eventually Y'ALL COME! > > Matt > -- > Pam, Matt and Darrell Worner > WBCCI, VAC, WNJU & WDCU #4971 > 1975 31' Sovereign (The Tinsel Tubesteak) > 1976 24' Argosy rear door (The Bun Metallica) > 1957 16' Bubble (The Tin 'Tater Tot) > 2000 F-350 PSD > Hensley Arrow ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:52:29 -0500 From: Matt Worner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Courtesy Parking: Pending Bob, Clayton is about 20 minutes north of the house. It sports the one traffic light I know of in Union County. There may be more, but I only encountered the one in my trip. Will keep you posted as to when we're settled in. Matt My Airstream wrote: > Hi Matt, > Nice photos on your home page. Your homestead looks beautiful and > isolated. I have a brother in law in NE New Mexico. He has a ranch in > Clayton. I don't know how far that is from Sedan but I thought I'd just > toss it out. He's a judge and a 60's hippie leftover. Great combo. > > Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com > 66 Airstream Safari > Mira Mar Mobile Park > Oceanside, CA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matt Worner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "List, Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "List, VAC" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lupien, Debbie & Roy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Miro, > Elisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Moore, Wayne A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:34 PM > Subject: [VACList] Courtesy Parking: Pending > > > Well Twinkie People, It's official. The Worners will be opening a > > courtesy parking site in Sedan, NM within the next 2 years. Closing (by > > mail) was completed today and we are now deeper in hock. (Spending > > money like we've got it is the main reason we don't.) > > > > Looking forward to opening a Southwest branch of the Airstream Rescue > > Foundation in that 4500 square foot barn. > > > > See photos and realtor brochure at: > > > > http://community.webshots.com/user/wornmatt > > > > in the NM Homestead folder. > > > > Don't pack just yet, but eventually Y'ALL COME! > > > > Matt > > -- > > Pam, Matt and Darrell Worner > > WBCCI, VAC, WNJU & WDCU #4971 > > 1975 31' Sovereign (The Tinsel Tubesteak) > > 1976 24' Argosy rear door (The Bun Metallica) > > 1957 16' Bubble (The Tin 'Tater Tot) > > 2000 F-350 PSD > > Hensley Arrow > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > > To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html - -- Pam, Matt and Darrell Worner WBCCI, VAC, WNJU & WDCU #4971 1975 31' Sovereign (The Tinsel Tubesteak) 1976 24' Argosy rear door (The Bun Metallica) 1957 16' Bubble (The Tin 'Tater Tot) 2000 F-350 PSD Hensley Arrow ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:20:25 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [VACList] Generators The Honda 4000watt 33.5 amp is mdel ev4010 the 6ooo watt 50 amp is ev6010Both are liquid cooled. I found them in Northern Tool &Equipment Co @002 Spruing and summer master catalog. Page 9. Item #16949-896 DEiscount price$2199.99 item # 16950-8968 $2699.99 Phone 1-800-556-7885 WWW>Northern Tool.com his price does nor include gas tank or muffler. these units are primarly made to fit in the generator compartment of motor homes. This is not aprovlem as i will build a storage box to mount on the A frame of my trailer as i did fotr the present unit.will route the exaustvto the rear of the trailer I will have to buy a 10 gal gas tank northern has them at about $70.00 Jim Smith 1965 Tradewind (The Silver Abaltross) 1992 dodge Cummins Diesel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:27:42 -0500 From: "Lewis A. Lindner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager 12/17/2002 6:14:19 AM, Dick Parins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I am >wondering if anyone can share their experience with the Tekonsha >Voyager Have pulled with Voyager for two years, no equalizer, no sway bars, no sway... totally uneventful. HOWEVER, my puller is overkill, and I won't pull on ice. -- Lew #4239 '72 Safari Chevie 3500 conversion van (CustomCraft "Megatow") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:57:26 -0500 From: "tmeeker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager I agree with you, Jim. My Prodigy unit, once installed and setup, needed no further adjustments and I just towed a 34' Airstream home to NC from IL. I told the people at Camping World in Nashville what a great product this is from Tekonsha and they told me that they love to hear comments such as mine. Tom Meeker WBCCI 5303 From: "Jim Dunmyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager > Dick, > The Prodigy is far better than the Voyager. I've had both, and wouldn't > consider the latter under any circumstances. It isn't like the price > difference is hundreds of dollars, either. Your safety and peace of mind is > worth the small difference. > > <<Jim>> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:08:23 -0800 From: "Jim W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager The previous owner of my 20 foot Argosy said that his Voyager needed constant adjustment. Always fiddling with it on the road. I have not prurchased a controler yet. Sitll interested in this thread. Jim Widdicombe - ----- Original Message ----- From: "tmeeker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager > I agree with you, Jim. My Prodigy unit, once installed and setup, needed no > further adjustments and I just towed a 34' Airstream home to NC from IL. I > told the people at Camping World in Nashville what a great product this is > from Tekonsha and they told me that they love to hear comments such as mine. > > Tom Meeker > WBCCI 5303 > > From: "Jim Dunmyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager > > > > Dick, > > The Prodigy is far better than the Voyager. I've had both, and wouldn't > > consider the latter under any circumstances. It isn't like the price > > difference is hundreds of dollars, either. Your safety and peace of mind > is > > worth the small difference. > > > > <<Jim>> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > > To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:29:17 -0600 From: "JRKleven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Brake controlers There has been a lot of interest lately on the Prodigy and Voyager and just thought I would offer anybody needing either at lower price then any retailer. I get them through my business. The Voyager is adequate for most applications and the trailer weight is not really the issue but rather the way they work Both use inertia activated proportional technology but the Prodigy is the only one that has "Smart control" which is the same features in reverse to prevent that jerking while backing. It also has a quick disconnect for storage and theft protection and automatic level adjustment for varying terrain. If you are looking for a Voyager, don't buy the XP model unless you have three or four axles as that is the difference between the standard Voyager and the XP. Contact me off list if you are interested in either. Randy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:27:25 -0500 From: Dick Kenan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager I've had the Tekonsha Sentinel and the Voyager; both were basically ok, but the Sentinel was easier to adjust. The Voyager, which was already installed on my current Suburban, seemed to need adjustment fairly often, but that was never a real problem. I did not like the braking action, which seemed to me to be either too much or too little, seldom exactly what I wanted. I replaced the Voyager with a Jordan Research Ultima 2020 (actually, before Tekonsha came out with the Prodigy), which I still have; it is very nice and give great, proportional, braking. My only reservation is that one cannot replace the cable - you have to get a whole new unit. If something happened to the cable, I'd feel better if I could just replace it; I would carry a spare if that was possible. Outside of that, I'm very satisfied with the Jordan. - - Dick (5368) At 09:08 PM 12/17/2002 -0800, you wrote: >The previous owner of my 20 foot Argosy said that his Voyager needed >constant adjustment. Always fiddling with it on the road. I have not >prurchased a controler yet. Sitll interested in this thread. > >Jim Widdicombe > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "tmeeker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 6:57 PM >Subject: Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager > > > > I agree with you, Jim. My Prodigy unit, once installed and setup, needed >no > > further adjustments and I just towed a 34' Airstream home to NC from IL. >I > > told the people at Camping World in Nashville what a great product this is > > from Tekonsha and they told me that they love to hear comments such as >mine. > > > > Tom Meeker > > WBCCI 5303 > > > > From: "Jim Dunmyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager > > > > > > > Dick, > > > The Prodigy is far better than the Voyager. I've had both, and wouldn't > > > consider the latter under any circumstances. It isn't like the price > > > difference is hundreds of dollars, either. Your safety and peace of mind > > is > > > worth the small difference. > > > > > > <<Jim>> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > > > > To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to > > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > >To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to >http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html "God Himself, sir, does not propose to judge a man until his life is over. Why should you and I?" -Samuel Johnson, lexicographer (1709-1784) - --------------------------------------- Dick Kenan Tel: 770-451-0672 Retired and loving it! WBCCI # 5368, 28' 1995 Excella Atlanta mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mindspring.com/~as5368/ ------------------------------ End of VACList Digest V3 #46 **************************** When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary Digest text To unsubscribe or change to an e-mail format, please go to http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
