VACList Digest Tuesday, December 17 2002 Volume 03 : Number 045
When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary Digest text To unsubscribe or change to an e-mail format, please go to http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html Topics in Today's Digest: Re: [VACList] selling trailer [VACList] Question about 1948 Airstream Re: [VACList] Question about 1948 Airstream [VACList] Re: VACList Digest V3 #44 [VACList] FW: Vermont/Generators Re: [VACList] Question about 1948 Airstream Re: [VACList] FW: Vermont/Generators Re: [VACList] FW: Vermont/Generators Re: [VACList] Re: VACList Digest V3 #44 Re: [VACList] FW: Vermont/Generators ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:48:11 -0500 From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] selling trailer Pete, The first place I would try to list an Airstream for sale would be in our very own classifieds webpage. Go to www.airstream.net and follow the link to the classifieds. Scott - ----- Original Message ----- > Hello all, > > I'm thinking of selling my '65 Caravel. When is the best time to sell a > trailer and where should I list it? > > Thank you, > Pete ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:18:20 -0800 From: "Liz Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Question about 1948 Airstream Hi there! I am new to this list, and a new owner of a 1948 Airstream Liner Tradewind 22' trailer (my husband and I picked the trailer on Saturday!). I was looking through the archives of the VAC list, trying to figure out the original layout of the Airstream, as sometime between the manufacture date and now the past owners took out the bed in the back and put in a bathroom instead. It also looks as if some of the appliances were replaced in the 50's or 60's and a wall heater was added (as well as cabinets were replaced with a fold out couch). My husband and I would like to restore our trailer to the original layout and try to find as many original parts as possible in our restoration process, can anyone help with idea's on how to replace the existing bathroom with a bed again? Or might this damage the trailer further? Thanks so much and have a wonderful day! Best regards, Elizabeth _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:43:34 -0800 From: "Tuna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Question about 1948 Airstream Hi, Liz - Congratulations on your new acquisition - is there some place you can post some pictures of it? My '48 Trailwind (19') had been 'rode hard and put away wet' over the years, and had ended up as a 'party annex' to some frat house at the U of Montana. So i gutted it completely, and in the course of doing so made some discoveries... mine came with an original (1948) rear-bath - a 4'x2' enamelled steel tub and no holding tank - they drained all the graywater directly onto the ground. It also had a Sears glass-lined water tank and a little 12v 'aquarium' pump to pressurize the water system. Previous-owner 'modifications' included a tire blow-out, a bent axle, a ruptured propane line, and an exploded water heater with accompanying charring around the resulting hole in the floor. I'm in the process of constructing a new frame to accomodate the original 'pipe' and a brand new henschen axle/suspension. I plan to plumb in freshwater and graywater 'tanks' of my own design, and a blackwater tank, as well. 'restoration' of a '48 airstream requires some re-thinking of some fundamentals... there really was no 'frame' (as such), and the original leaf-spring suspension will have certainly lost its 'spring'. When you get into it a bit, you may find that in some places the floor won't support the weight of a large dog or a small human, much less a refrigerator or bed, and that the absence of a frame under the floor will make 'floor repair' just about impossible. Not trying to discourage you - it's just that the immediate postwar years of trailer-manufacture used 'minimalist engineering'... they didn't hold up nearly as well as the trailers from the early '50's on... VAC founder Bud Cooper did an astonishing restoration/renovation of his '49 Clipper, and inspired me to do much the same. whereabouts are you located? Tuna Reno, NV - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:18 PM Subject: [VACList] Question about 1948 Airstream > Hi there! > > I am new to this list, and a new owner of a 1948 Airstream Liner Tradewind > 22' trailer (my husband and I picked the trailer on Saturday!). I was > looking through the archives of the VAC list, trying to figure out the > original layout of the Airstream, as sometime between the manufacture date > and now the past owners took out the bed in the back and put in a bathroom > instead. It also looks as if some of the appliances were replaced in the > 50's or 60's and a wall heater was added (as well as cabinets were replaced > with a fold out couch). My husband and I would like to restore our trailer > to the original layout and try to find as many original parts as possible in > our restoration process, can anyone help with idea's on how to replace the > existing bathroom with a bed again? Or might this damage the trailer > further? Thanks so much and have a wonderful day! > > Best regards, > > Elizabeth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:42:41 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VACList] Re: VACList Digest V3 #44 In a message dated 12/16/02 9:54:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS.... My uncle in KY repairs clocks as a hobby....has a million in his house as a collector. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:00:33 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VACList] FW: Vermont/Generators A couple of posts on Vermont recently spoke of generators. I may soon be getting one. I've got 30 amp electrical, so a 5000-watt unit should cover it. But am also thinking about using it for back-up for our home, and have been advised that a 6K unit would be better for that. I've heard Hondas are quietest. Around here (southern Maine), Kawasakis and Generacs seem to be quite available, and priced to sell. I'd like to hear, off-list or on if the list would be interested, of anyone's experience as to type/make, size, reliability, etc. Thanks. Terry Clopper WBCCI, NEU, VAC. 1993 - 34' Excella 1994 - Suburban C2500 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:08:51 -0800 From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Question about 1948 Airstream I guess the question would be how well were the mods done? If the craftsmanship of the work and functionality are good, it might be best to leave in place and expand upon it. 1950's & '60's appliances have a class all their own, too. But, if it looks like it was kluged together, is in poor condition or all inoperative, then you have the opprtunity to do a ground up resto, either in the traditional layout, or one that fits your lifestyle. I personally believe that either is option is great as long as quality is maintained. In a totally unoriginal unit like this, the originality police won't haul you away for destroying one of the few original trailers left either :>) The best way to find out how to duplicate and build the period cabinets and furniture that would have been present is to attend a couple of larger vintage rallies and observe some '40's units up close. Members are also helpful in sending images of certain features if you get stumped, especially the acquaintances you establish at the rallies. What might be an issue is the strength of the floor though, these '40's trailers were very lightweight, and have rarely withstood the ravages of time well. Best of luck, RJ VintageAirstream.com On 12/16/02 12:18 PM, "Liz Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there! > I am new to this list, and a new owner of a 1948 Airstream Liner Tradewind > 22' trailer (my husband and I picked the trailer on Saturday!). I was > looking through the archives of the VAC list, trying to figure out the > original layout of the Airstream, as sometime between the manufacture date > and now the past owners took out the bed in the back and put in a bathroom > instead. It also looks as if some of the appliances were replaced in the > 50's or 60's and a wall heater was added (as well as cabinets were replaced > with a fold out couch). My husband and I would like to restore our trailer > to the original layout and try to find as many original parts as possible in > our restoration process, can anyone help with idea's on how to replace the > existing bathroom with a bed again? Or might this damage the trailer > further? Thanks so much and have a wonderful day! > Best regards, > Elizabeth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:43:39 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [VACList] FW: Vermont/Generators when I went all electric on my trailer I first used a 3000 watt diesel generator I found it was not realy up to the task also had other provlems that were too difficult to deal with. I am replacing with a Honda RV generator it is pricey but I think it will fill the bill. It is a twin cyl liquid cooledVery compact I am torn between the 4000 watt and the 6000 watt the price diff is $500 the larger unit weighs 216 ld and the smaller unit is 208 lb.these units are avalable from Northerntool and equipment co. Jim Smith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:09:27 -0700 From: "Mike Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] FW: Vermont/Generators Consider a Lincoln or Miller generator/welder @9/10,000 watts they are noisy but a far better deal for the money plus is more capability. Maybe you coul,d muffle one. - ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:00 PM Subject: [VACList] FW: Vermont/Generators > A couple of posts on Vermont recently spoke of generators. I may soon be > getting one. > > I've got 30 amp electrical, so a 5000-watt unit should cover it. But am also > thinking about using it for back-up for our home, and have been advised that > a 6K unit would be better for that. I've heard Hondas are quietest. Around > here (southern Maine), Kawasakis and Generacs seem to be quite available, > and priced to sell. > > I'd like to hear, off-list or on if the list would be interested, of > anyone's experience as to type/make, size, reliability, etc. > > Thanks. > > Terry Clopper > WBCCI, NEU, VAC. > 1993 - 34' Excella > 1994 - Suburban C2500 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > > To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:38:43 -0700 From: Robert Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Re: VACList Digest V3 #44 > > >"My uncle in KY repairs clocks as a hobby....has a million in his house as a >collector." > I told you ten-thousand times not to exagerate! ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 00:07:37 -0800 From: Rik & Susan Beeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] FW: Vermont/Generators I have one, they are the best. Bite the bullet and buy the bigger one. 50% more power for maybe 15% more money? A no-brainer, IMHO. Best regards, and Merry Christmas to all, Rik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >. I am replacing with a Honda RV >generator it is pricey but I think it will fill the bill. It is a twin cyl >liquid cooledVery compact I am torn between the 4000 watt and the 6000 watt >the price diff is $500 >Jim Smith > > > ------------------------------ End of VACList Digest V3 #45 **************************** When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary Digest text To unsubscribe or change to an e-mail format, please go to http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
