VACList Digest Wednesday, February 5 2003 Volume 03 : Number 095
When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary Digest text To unsubscribe or change to an e-mail format, please go to http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html Topics in Today's Digest: Re: [VACList] 1977 Argosy [VACList] Re: VACList Digest V3 #94 [VACList] Re: VACList Digest V3 #94 RE: [VACList] Source for Worthington aluminum propane cylinders [VACList] Avion by Fleetwood Re: [VACList] Avion by Fleetwood Re: [VACList] Avion by Fleetwood ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 07:42:40 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] 1977 Argosy Greetings John! The differences between your '63 Overlander and the '77 Argosy won't be terribly great so far as operational and utility systems are concerned, and the typical concerns about structural and floor integrity remain the same. Some differences that you will encounter include the wrap around wing windows in the front of the coach - - these can be quite costly to replace if damaged or broken - - and a new front window rock guard can cost in excess of $500 if the coach isn't so equipped. Unlike the '63, you will find that all windows have tempered safety glass, and if my understanding is correct some may be thermopane as was found in similar model year Airstreams. As with similar model year Airstreams, the tambour cabinet doors may be a concern - - they can be reproduced, but the tambour material isn't cheap at something in the neighborhood of $350 for a 4' x 8' sheet - - the guides and tracks for the tambour (should they need replacement) can also become expensive at something in the neighborhood of $20 to $30 per opening. Another item that can be troublesome is the main door lock - - if it has been maintained and cared for, it shouldn't pose too great a problem, but if the door has been frequently slammed or the lock mistreated it can be expensive to replace/repair - - it seems that the interior handle is a rather frequent problem point (the one on my '78 Minuet is gradually disintegrating). So far as the exterior is concerned, the galvanized end caps can be a problem to keep protected with paint. It seems that the paint often fails from the edges in (resulting from contact between dissimilar metals?) - - not necessarily difficult to remedy, but something that must be maintained. The chassis is basic Airstream all of the way, so there is also the concern about the condition of the DuraTorque axles as would be the case with a similar Airstream. Basically, I have really enjoyed the differences between my '64 Overlander and the '78 Argosy. Each trailer has its own unique personality, and I am looking forward to getting even better acquainted with my Argosy. You wouldn't happen to be looking at one of the rare 1977 24' Minuets with tandem axles? Good luck with your inspection! Kevin Kevin Allen WBCCI/VAC #6359 1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K250 Suburban 1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible (Towcar-In-Training) - ----- Original Message ----- From: John Impson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: john VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:59 PM Subject: [VACList] 1977 Argosy > This may be a mistake, something is wrong with our server, but if it does get through, would appreciate any input: > am currently looking at a 1977 twin axle Argosy travel trailer, looks to be in decent shape, owner needs to sell. > Not familiar with Argosy, have a 1963 Airstream Overlander, that I know inside and out. > any help on the Argosy would be appreciated: > Problems, > What to look for, > etc. > thanks, > john ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 15:30:29 -0600 From: Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Re: VACList Digest V3 #94 I have a '75 Argosy 26. Argosys were made by airstream and except for the paint, and the end caps, which are either steel or fiberglass, depending (I'm not sure on what, but most are steel and mine are glass), they are virtually identical to silver airstreams. They were a lower-priced model and tend not to have options such as vista-view windows (tho I have seem some argosy'\s with them), etc. Otherwise same design, construction, quality, systems. Love mine. Plus, you don't have to polish! Dan Weeks 75 Argosy 26 Des Moines > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (VACList Digest) > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 05:00:03 -0800 (PST) > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: VACList Digest V3 #94 > > 1977 Argosy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 15:31:32 -0600 From: Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Re: VACList Digest V3 #94 Forgot to add: Things to look for are the same as on an airstream: floor rot, seam seals, etc. Dan > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (VACList Digest) > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 05:00:03 -0800 (PST) > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: VACList Digest V3 #94 > > 1977 Argosy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:54:58 -0500 From: "Edward Emerick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [VACList] Source for Worthington aluminum propane cylinders Hello, I saw aluminum tanks in the switch and run propane display at the local gas station! The price was like $14.50 for a trade and $49 for no trade. I have not had time to look them over real close yet but it's on my weekend agenda. If these are truly aluminum I can't believe I have saved these old tanks from the gas grills I have purchased over the years (Webber & charcoal is the preferred method to burn my streaks!)but now I know how to get new tanks for my 59. Ed WBCCI 4425 - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Maxwell Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 2:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [VACList] Source for Worthington aluminum propane cylinders [ Note: This mail was converted from HTML to text by majordomo. Formatting might be poor. ] After we purchased ours from AirstreamDreams.com (we are very happy with them) we found another distributor that was a bit less expensive: Emerald Isle Distribution Inc 6999 Huntley Rd # M,Columbus,OH 43229 Phone: (614) 888-2788 You may want to see how they compare now. -- Shari Davis '64 GlobeTrotter - "Maxwell" WBCCI #1824, VAC www.insideout-design.net/maxwell - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:26:32 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VACList] Avion by Fleetwood Hello all: I have driven past a trailer down the street from my home for the past 15 years. It is a 1983 Avion by Fleetwood. I finally decided to stop by and ask about it. It was purchased in California, driven here to Utah and parked after the owner died of a sudden heart attack. It has sat for 17 or 18 years. The current owner is willing to sell but does not know a fair price. It has "9.1 Meters" on the outside which I believe equates to 27.8 feet. The owner states that they had to have all the locks changed recently because they were corroded. It is a tandem axle with twin propane tanks in front. It has an electric jack. The outside skin is all aluminum and it has a awning that looks in good shape. I could not get inside (she could not find the right key) but she says it has a queen bed and two twin beds. The tire treads look fine but the tires probably need replacing because of sitting so long. Assuming that all appliances work and plumbing is sound, what might be a fair price and is this model worth looking at. Any opinions are appreciated. Tom Fairbank 1969 Tradewind (getting jealous) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:51:29 -0500 From: "T Meeker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Avion by Fleetwood http://www.oldengine.org/members/jdunmyer/83avion/ Tom, A list member who's URL is posted above has a very similar trailer for sale unless he sold it already. Jim Dunmyer would be an excellent source for you to ask about what a fair price would be for the Avion you have in your area. Way back in the late 80's we looked at and almost bought a brand new 34' Avion by Fleetwood. The price was about $30k or more but it sure was a beautiful trailer. That was when we bought our first Airstream, a 1969 29' Intl Ambassador for a mere $4k. We put another $4-5k into it and had a very nice Airstream then. ;) Our second Airstream recently followed us home, it's a 1995 34' Classic Excella FK model and we dearly love this one, too! For what it's worth Jim was asking just $8200.00 for his Avion. Tom From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Avion by Fleetwood ........................The current owner is willing to sell but does not know a fair > price. It has "9.1 Meters" on the outside which I believe equates to 27.8 > feet. Assuming that all appliances work and plumbing is sound, > what might be a fair price and is this model worth looking at. Any opinions > are appreciated. > Tom Fairbank > 1969 Tradewind (getting jealous) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 03:22:00 -0500 From: "T Meeker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Avion by Fleetwood Tom, Check out these links: http://my.execpc.com/~drg/avion.html http://www.oldengine.org/members/jdunmyer/83avion/thestory.htm http://my.execpc.com/~drg/avionfsw.html http://www.avionclub.org/Sales.html http://www.edspencer.com/listings/xa-musgrave082700.html inside pics of a 34' Avion Fleetwood no longer builds aluminum Avion travel trailers. I think they stopped and switched to fiberglass in the early 90's. Tom From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Avion by Fleetwood ............................ Assuming that all appliances work and plumbing is sound, > what might be a fair price and is this model worth looking at. Any opinions > are appreciated. > Tom Fairbank ------------------------------ End of VACList Digest V3 #95 **************************** When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary Digest text To unsubscribe or change to an e-mail format, please go to http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
