> From: Alessandro Pellizzari <a...@amiran.it>> Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2017, > 13:47 > Subject: Re: [Vala] Vala++
> On 04/04/17 13:28, Al Thomas via vala-list wrote: >> You seem to over talking Rust and under talking Vala. > No, I don't. :) > Rust is a hard beast to learn. It took me months to have a decent grasp > of it, and I'm still missing many "rustic ways" of doing things, while > in Vala I was productive in weeks. May be that's why Rust is still labelled a systems programming language. So it's in the same application space as Erlang. Vala is a lot more fun and gives people who are not systems and software engineers the opportunity to express their ideas. Although Vala has and needs all levels of abilities. > But, on the other side: no memory leaks, no segmentation faults, no > concurrency mess-ups (unless you try VERY hard). Vala is pretty good on this, but hopefully you took a little bit of your time and reported the problem you had with Vala. Just as Rust users do: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/4494 Also Vala links to libraries that may cause such problems. I'm not sure how Rust deals with that. I found this in the Rust docs: https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/ffi.html#ffi-and-panics but that says "Please note that catch_unwind() will only catch unwinding panics, not those who abort the process." Is there a lot of wrapping? The initialisation of GTK uses wrapping in the example: > What I'm saying is exactly what you said: Rust has many more resources. > It's growing much faster (it is not even 2 years old). I guess that must be a typo. Looks like the first commit was back on 16 June 2010: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/commit/c01efc669f09508b55eced32d3c88702578a7c3e Or maybe you mean from the 1.0 release. Looks like that was 15 May 2015: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/RELEASES.md#version-100-2015-05-15 So yes, five years from first commit to 1.0 release is pretty good. > Inevitably, in a couple of years, it will be ahead of Vala even in Gtk/Gnome > support, unless hundreds of developers adopt Vala now. _______________________________________________ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
