> I think especially for open air performance the plain gut basses of the
five
> course guitar are not very useful. The 'musica ruidosa' that Sanz speaks
of
> could refer to another (indoor?) situation. 'el que quiere taner guitarra
> para hazer musica ruidosa, o accompagnarse el baxo con alguno tono, o
> sonada, es mejor con bordones la guitarra, que sin ellos.
> It seems that he speaks of basso continuo (and, indeed , of 'noisy
music').
> In his time, in Spain, every use of strumming may have been seen as
'noisy'.

I don't think the location has anything to do with it.  Sanz is actually
referring to two different sets of circumstances. In Spain - and the New
World - the guitar was used as an accompanying instrument for villancicos
performed on religious festivals both in church and out of doors and in the
theatre which was out of doors - that is arranged around a courtyard - but
with a covered stage and boxes for the elite.

> As you know Sanz, Marin and Guerau did hardly use this technique. It could
> be understood as a way to say that bourdons are useful for strumming in
the
> old-fashioned or popular style.

Sanz does combine strumming with puntedo a lot more than you would think.
The point about Marin is that the guitar accompaniment is someone's (not
necessarily Marin's realization of the bass line.  The songs were not
specifically composed for voice and guitar.  Most of them survive in other
(earlier) sources as songs with an unfigured bass.  We don't know to what
extent a player would have elaborated or varied the accompaniment.  This is
probably true of a lot of music in Spanish music - it is the basis for
improvised performance - which is why it appears rather simple.  (I have
been having a discussion with someone in Spain about this who is not very
happy about the use of the term "Spanish style" in connection with the
above.  You can't please all of the people all of the time)

> My point (rather speculative) was that the origins of the re-entrant
tuning
> may have come from outdoor playing, possibly a century or more before
Sanz.
> I have the impression that certain frequencies (middle-higher) of early
> plucked instruments reach further outdoors than lower ones. Hence the
> (respectful) ukelele comparison.

I do think it has more to do with playing with a plectrum.  Playing the
cittern was quite a defining moment for me. A lot of things which didn't
seem logical before suddenly made good sense. I have no experience of the
ukelele.

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