Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Capona?
On 09/12/2011 06:23, Rockford Mjos wrote:
I have added the score "Capona Espagnola" from the De Gallot Ms to
my Ning page. (I tried to also upload one by Valdambrini, but Ning
seems to be stubborn tonight.)
Ning indeed seems very stubborn tonight. I couldn't access Rocky
transcription - very frustrating. Nothing happens when I click on it.
Very interesting - and in the same key as the two in Carbonchi. Rocky,
do you think the last beat of bar 9 should be open A (fifth course)
rather than D on the fourth?
Could be - Gallot or his servant Monnier isn't always entirely accurate.
He has barred it wrongly which he quite often does with pieces which start
with an anacrucis.
And the g#s in bar 23. Are they just a
passing variation; a sort of E7 chord rather than G. But could they be
an error?
Could be. I wonder where he copied the piece from. He has copied
Carbonchi's instructions for tuning guitars to 12 different pitches.
These pieces are playing around with 2/4 and 3/4 but is there an
underlying 'vamp' (as it were)?
Apparently it is a characteristic of the Capona that it divides into two
irregular phrases, one of 5 beats and the other of 7. 5 crotchets followed
by 7 crotchets or 3 minims plus a crotchet I.e. a sort of hemiola.
Lynda Sayce has done a very nice version of Piccinini's Capona on a CD with
Charivarri Agreeable. She suggests that Piccinini's version - which is
apparently rather inept - may be an arrangement of a guitar piece. So she
has arranged it back. Piccinini did spend some time in Spain.
I must say that this music is far slinkier than I'm used to hearing in
17th century music! I wonder what they got up to when they danced to it
(and which was condemned at the time)? I'd guess it would seem very
tame to compared to some of the overtly sexual dance of today.
Exactly! I think this present day obsession with the idea that the dances
were obscene and that being banned gives them some sort of instrinsic merit
is a bit wide of the mark. (I just went to see ENO's production of Castor
and Pollux in which the artists spent a lot of taking their knickers off -
unthinkable in Rameau's time. They were actually quite prudish.
But I
can see now why Guerau in his Poema Harmonica says something to the
effect that studying his complicated and difficult variations on the
dance pieces will keep you out of trouble.
Well he actaully says "Use it to banish idleness and raise your heart to
God". But that's the sort of thing that they say in these prefaces. They
were very high minded. How many players on this list raise their hearts to
God when playing?
Monica
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On Dec 8, 2011, at 5:58 PM, Eloy Cruz wrote:
Dear Stuart, list
This is from Cotarelo y Mori's "Coleccion":
p. CCXXXVII. Capona (La) (Baile). Dicc. de Autoridades: ^3Son o
baile a modo
de la Mariona; pero mas rapido y bullicioso, con el cual y a cuyo
tanido se
cantan varias coplillas^2.
A very bad English translation could be:
Music and dance in the way of a Mariona, but faster and noisier; to
which
music they use to sing several small coplas.
In a 17th cent. Spanish play, one of the characters says he won't
dance to
that music, because it is "of very bad circumstances", because the
word
capon is used to refer to a man who has been emasculated.
Best wishes
eloy
El [FECHA], "[NOMBRE]" <[DIRECCION]> escribio:
Hi Stuart,
I don't know what capona means, and I don't have the music handy,
but I
enjoyed this. I like your tempo.
Best,
Jocelyn
From: Stuart Walsh [1]<[1]s.wa...@ntlworld.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 20:14:31 +0000
To: Vihuelalist [2]<[2]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Subject: [VIHUELA] Capona?
Timo Peedu has edited some Carbonchi pieces (to be found on his
ning
early guitar page). Included are two short and simple but unusual
pieces
with the title 'Capona'.
There are a couple of versions of a very fancy Capona by
Kapsberger
(including one by Rob Mackillop).
Any ideas what Capona means?
Here is a go at the simple ones by Carbonchi. If I have
misunderstood
the timing or the way it should be played, I'd like to know
(preferably
in a polite way!)
[3][3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUfrieijW5I
Stuart
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