That is because good Maps Explore has taken its place.
Richard Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry. My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 9:25 AM To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Talking GPS Apps Hello Deidre, The setting you are looking for to control shops is the increase and decrease buttons at the top of the app. Also, you should know that the app is no longer being supported, and new users cannot download it any longer. Thanks. On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:16 AM <deidreandlou...@gmail.com<mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>> wrote: I have simplified my approach to making choices around the many offerings out there that offer me good accessibility. I do not need 3 different GPS or scanning Apps and if I find one that works well, and way better than Apps we all tested out over the last ten years, I stick to them. Long gone is KNFB Reader, Digitize, Seeing Eye, and Blind Square which I must not have tweaked easily enough to use with great ease. I haven't looked at it in years, so I'm not sure how it works now. I admire the techs and adaptive tech consultants on this list, and their thoroughness in checking out the many different Apps is impressive, and I am grateful to have access to their body of knowledge and their willingness to share it. I use Nearby Explorer On-Line. It's free and easy and very vocal. I don't know if you can mark a route but it will tell you when you change direction which I find essential at times I get turned around, or my dog takes me on a detour when we are on a recreational walk. In my town, I know the streets throughout the entire city. I can tell which side of a street I am on based on even and odd number addresses, which is useful for when I've crossed a street unknowingly, like in my neighborhood where it's sometimes hard to tell where the corner is this time of year due to messy clumps of snow and low traffic flow. At night when temperatures plummet around here, I make sure I have my phone charged and in my pocket with cellular data and location tracking already turned on. If my dog decides she wants a longer walk, and does not default to our usual turns, well, with not a soul to be found on the street, in a split second I can open Nearby Explorer and turn her around and insist on getting home I am told the names of streets when they are nearby, and I get block number info like 1-33 or 36-59, and that's cool. One thing I'd definitely like to limit is hearing locations such as shops that are at quite a distance away from where I am, like as far away as a whole block but I'm not sure which setting it is. I think it did exist in the full App I once had on my phone, but I'm not sure about the newer On-Line App. It is an App you download so I'm not sure how the On-Line version differs from the older App. Deidre From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Talking GPS Apps Most GPS apps work fine with VoiceOver. Google Maps is my go to GPS app. There is a setting for more detailed walking directions for visually impaired. Blind Square is a great app for orientation and can launch Apple Maps, Google Maps, and others to get turn by turn directions. Good Maps Explore is the new version of the prior APH map that was paid to have maps stored locally. It does both orientation and turn by turn directions, maps are stored in the cloud It shows up as Explore on the iPhone.. Microsoft Soundscape is very popular, especially if you have bone conduction headphones since it speaks out of the side closest to the street/business, etc. So you get real orientation. Seeing Eye GPS is the Cadillac of GPS apps for the blind at $200. Lazarillo is also an excellent, free, orientation app and can do its own walking directions, as well as launch other maps for turn by turn driving/riding directions. MapQuest is good in the United States, but not as user friendly as the others. But again, they all work fine with VoiceOver. Richard Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry. My web site, www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C69c3003dd01044d9f46808d8ceb21847%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637486611599592342%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=hFoaCysoi%2FrlO84IBwZft2ihVuHpZdxHaf4brhA8tso%3D&reserved=0> From: orbit-rea...@groups.io<mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io> <orbit-rea...@groups.io<mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io>> On Behalf Of Lehmann, Timothy A Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 4:54 AM To: orbit-rea...@groups.io<mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io> Subject: [orbit-reader] Talking GPS's Any suggestions for a talking GPS-App which can be downloaded to an iPhone? I am trying to find one that is fully accessible using Voice Over. Thanks and have a nice day! Tim Lehmann Access Specialist Student Affairs Missouri State University Meyer Library 111G 901 South National Avenue Springfield, Missouri 65897 Office 417-836-4248 Fax 417-836-3158 mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu From: orbit-rea...@groups.io<mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io> <orbit-rea...@groups.io<mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io>> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via groups.io<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgroups.io%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C69c3003dd01044d9f46808d8ceb21847%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637486611599592342%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=D4ruO6UB3MUYzsyGoehxTgOb%2B%2FTmgQKs8S6hENrQ%2Fi8%3D&reserved=0> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 4:34 PM To: orbit-rea...@groups.io<mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io> Subject: Re: [orbit-reader] Suggestion for Audio Features in Orbit Reader 40 CAUTION: External Sender You can use dectalk with NVDA with an addon. It works real good on windows10. On Feb 10, 2021, at 16:53, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: The DeckTalk, and other hardware sythesizers that have been used with screen readers were not necessarily designed for the blind. They were also used for entertainment purposes and for early audimated phone systems. Some of those voices are truly only for the novelty. And the DeckTalk's ability to sing was a bit over the edge on silly, but very entertaining. Especially when someone programmed it to sing Poisoning Pigeons in the Park by Tom Lehrer. Richard "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy On Feb 10, 2021, at 1:41 PM, Christina V. <bluebonnet1...@gmail.com<mailto:bluebonnet1...@gmail.com>> wrote: DecTalk is excellent! I know it was used in all sorts of devices, BookPort original, the Newsline, etc. I first encountered it in the Reading Edge, and I really want to know, who's using Whispering Wendy? Haha Why include all these odd voices, i can't imagine anyone liking a few of those? But this is off topic now. Christina V. On 2/10/21, Pamela Dominguez <pammygir...@gmail.com<mailto:pammygir...@gmail.com>> wrote: Maybe more punctuation is needed, but since I’m not the one who wrote what I’m reading, I can’t do anything about it. I use dec talk. Pam. From: Christina V. Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 4:32 PM To: orbit-rea...@groups.io<mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io> Subject: Re: [orbit-reader] Suggestion for Audio Features in Orbit Reader 40 Eloquence is more responsive than any other tts, I can read more quickly with it. And it's sound is even, compared to other voices. But I did laugh at the descriptions, above! If his pitch is getting that low in a single sentence, more punctuation is needed. eSpeak is fine, too, and my Iphone uses Fred. I've just stopped reading with anything else but Fred or Eloquence, so no more listening to recorded audio books, because of speed and the need to keep adjusting the volume! Christina V. On 2/10/21, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote: Eloquence is now and always has been my engine of choice for getting work done. From: orbit-rea...@groups.io<mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io> <orbit-rea...@groups.io<mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 10:44 AM To: orbit-rea...@groups.io<mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io> Subject: Re: [orbit-reader] Suggestion for Audio Features in Orbit Reader 40 Amen to that! But, everyone's ears are different and what sounds great to me, often doesn't sound that good to some. I think Eloquence sounds like someone falling asleep while reading, then waking up with a start and reading fast again. Richard Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry. 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To me, it sounds like it's drunk, and if it reads a long sentence, the pitch just keeps going farther and farther down, like something with a dying battery. Pam. From: Rebecca Skipper <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 8:17 AM To: orbit-rea...@groups.io<mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io> <mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io> Subject: Re: [orbit-reader] Suggestion for Audio Features in Orbit Reader 40 I like the fact that you can choose your own external keyboard, but if you want to use it with the unit, it has to be Bluetooth. You can still use an external keyboard with the computer. I hope eloquence will be around longer. I have heard that it is not always available on all because of licensing issues. From: orbit-rea...@groups.io<mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io> <mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io> <orbit-rea...@groups.io <mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io<mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io%20%3cmailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io>> > On Behalf Of Christina V. Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 7:32 AM To: orbit-rea...@groups.io<mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io> <mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io> Subject: Re: [orbit-reader] Suggestion for Audio Features in Orbit Reader 40 I agree! I'd like to have a speech option that toggles on and off, Eloquence, DecTalk, or something that sounds similar, because it is easier on my ear than human-like speech, and less drain on the battery, I believe. I read the transcript of the chat, and really like what I hear. I especially appreciate the fact that Orbit seems to be focused on keeping this a simple display/notetaker; it does not have Wifi, or try to do everything a PC does. I hope this means the Orbit has longer battery life than other notetakers. The option of using a qwerty keyboard was the selling point, for me! I prefer a qwerty device, but the only notetakers that have it have slightly under-sized keyboards that aren't the mechanical kind I prefer. I am delighted that the Orbit will allow me to use my own keyboard, and still have both input options! Christina V. On 2/9/21, Rebecca Skipper <skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com<mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com%0b%3cmailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> > wrote: I would like to see text-to-speech capabilities for those who want files read aloud. 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Tim Lehmann Access Specialist Student Affairs Missouri State University Meyer Library 111G 901 South National Avenue Springfield, Missouri 65897 Office 417-836-4248 Fax 417-836-3158 mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 8:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech support CAUTION: External Sender Exactly what happens when you try to use the dot Open command, which normally pops up the screen with the files from your Dropbox MBraille folder? I have had different issues over the years with MBraille and Dropbox working together. I can say that everything is working fine for me running ios 14.4. Other than deleting and reinstalling your apps, you can also try this, which solved my issue last time. 1, Make a backup of all of the files in your MBraille folder in Dropbox, moving them to a different location within Dropbox. 2, Delete the MBraille folder from Dropbox. 3, Within the MBraille app, turn off syncing with Dropbox, then clear it from your app switcher. 4, Start the MBraille app and turn back on syncing with Dropbox. MBraille should automatically create a new MBraille folder in Dropbox. 5, TYPE something in MBraille and save it so it will be saved to the MBraille folder in Dropbox. This is just testing to see if it works. 6, If the save is successful, then use the dot open command to see if you can open the file you just saved. 7, If both is successful, then you should be all set, so you can then copy and paste all of the files you use to have in the MBraille folder to the new one just created. Hopefully this is helpful and will work! Chris > On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:53 AM, Ioana Gandrabur > <igandra...@gmail.com<mailto:igandra...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Anyone knows what happened to mBraille support? > I sent messages to the feedback list and never got them or any replies. I did > check the spam. > > I also went to their contact form online and sent a message. But the page > never gave a confirmation that it was received nor did I hear back from > them... Very sad to see this app flag like this. > > My dropbox support stopped working. I uninstalled app and reinstalled with no > luck. I also turned off and back on the db setting in the mBraille app. > So now I have no aliases, no syncing of documents and no way to reach out to > developer... > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > Ioana > > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. 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