I have simplified my approach to making choices around the many offerings
out there that offer me good accessibility. I do not need 3 different GPS
or scanning Apps and if I find one that works well, and way better than
Apps we all tested out over the last ten years, I stick to them. Long gone
is KNFB Reader, Digitize, Seeing Eye, and Blind Square which I must not
have tweaked easily enough to use with great ease. I haven't looked at it
in years, so I'm not sure how it works now. I admire the techs and adaptive
tech consultants on this list, and their thoroughness in checking out the
many different Apps is impressive, and I am grateful to have access to
their body of knowledge and their willingness to share it.
I use Nearby Explorer On-Line. It's free and easy and very vocal. I don't
know if you can mark a route but it will tell you when you change direction
which I find essential at times I get turned around, or my dog takes me on
a detour when we are on a recreational walk.
In my town, I know the streets throughout the entire city. I can tell
which side of a street I am on based on even and odd number addresses,
which is useful for when I've crossed a street unknowingly, like in my
neighborhood where it's sometimes hard to tell where the corner is this
time of year due to messy clumps of snow and low traffic flow. At night
when temperatures plummet around here, I make sure I have my phone charged
and in my pocket with cellular data and location tracking already turned
on. If my dog decides she wants a longer walk, and does not default to our
usual turns, well, with not a soul to be found on the street, in a split
second I can open Nearby Explorer and turn her around and insist on getting
home
I am told the names of streets when they are nearby, and I get block
number info like 1-33 or 36-59, and that's cool.
One thing I'd definitely like to limit is hearing locations
such as shops that are at quite a distance away from where I am, like as
far away as a whole block but I'm not sure which setting it is. I think it
did exist in the full App I once had on my phone, but I'm not sure about
the newer On-Line App. It is an App you download so I'm not sure how the
On-Line version differs from the older App.
*Deidre*
*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of
*Richard Turner
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:21 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Talking GPS Apps
Most GPS apps work fine with VoiceOver.
Google Maps is my go to GPS app. There is a setting for more detailed
walking directions for visually impaired.
Blind Square is a great app for orientation and can launch Apple Maps,
Google Maps, and others to get turn by turn directions.
Good Maps Explore is the new version of the prior APH map that was paid to
have maps stored locally. It does both orientation and turn by turn
directions, maps are stored in the cloud It shows up as Explore on the
iPhone..
Microsoft Soundscape is very popular, especially if you have bone
conduction headphones since it speaks out of the side closest to the
street/business, etc. So you get real orientation.
Seeing Eye GPS is the Cadillac of GPS apps for the blind at $200.
Lazarillo is also an excellent, free, orientation app and can do its own
walking directions, as well as launch other maps for turn by turn
driving/riding directions.
MapQuest is good in the United States, but not as user friendly as the
others.
But again, they all work fine with VoiceOver.
Richard
Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
realize that you are in a hurry.
My web site, www.turner42.com
*From:* orbit-rea...@groups.io <orbit-rea...@groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Lehmann,
Timothy A
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2021 4:54 AM
*To:* orbit-rea...@groups.io
*Subject:* [orbit-reader] Talking GPS's
Any suggestions for a talking GPS-App which can be downloaded to an
iPhone? I am trying to find one that is fully accessible using Voice Over.
Thanks and have a nice day!
Tim Lehmann
Access Specialist
Student Affairs
Missouri State University
Meyer Library 111G
901 South National Avenue
Springfield, Missouri 65897
Office 417-836-4248 Fax 417-836-3158
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Reader 40
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You can use dectalk with NVDA with an addon. It works real good on
windows10.
On Feb 10, 2021, at 16:53, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com>
wrote:
ÿÿ
The DeckTalk, and other hardware sythesizers that have been used with
screen readers were not necessarily designed for the blind. They were also
used for entertainment purposes and for early audimated phone systems.
Some of those voices are truly only for the novelty.
And the DeckTalk's ability to sing was a bit over the edge on silly, but
very entertaining.
Especially when someone programmed it to sing Poisoning Pigeons in the
Park by Tom Lehrer.
Richard
"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
On Feb 10, 2021, at 1:41 PM, Christina V. <bluebonnet1...@gmail.com>
wrote:
ÿÿDecTalk is excellent!
I know it was used in all sorts of devices, BookPort original, the
Newsline, etc. I first encountered it in the Reading Edge, and I
really want to know, who's using Whispering Wendy? Haha Why include
all these odd voices, i can't imagine anyone liking a few of those?
But this is off topic now.
Christina V.
On 2/10/21, Pamela Dominguez <pammygir...@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe more punctuation is needed, but since Iÿÿm not the one who wrote what
Iÿÿm reading, I canÿÿt do anything about it. I use dec talk. Pam.
From: Christina V.
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 4:32 PM
To: orbit-rea...@groups.io
Subject: Re: [orbit-reader] Suggestion for Audio Features in Orbit Reader
40
Eloquence is more responsive than any other tts, I can read more
quickly with it. And it's sound is even, compared to other voices.
But I did laugh at the descriptions, above! If his pitch is getting
that low in a single sentence, more punctuation is needed.
eSpeak is fine, too, and my Iphone uses Fred. I've just stopped
reading with anything else but Fred or Eloquence, so no more listening
to recorded audio books, because of speed and the need to keep
adjusting the volume!
Christina V.
On 2/10/21, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
Eloquence is now and always has been my engine of choice for getting work
done.
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Turner
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 10:44 AM
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40
Amen to that!
But, everyone's ears are different and what sounds great to me, often
doesn't sound that good to some.
I think Eloquence sounds like someone falling asleep while reading, then
waking up with a start and reading fast again.
Richard
Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
realize that you are in a hurry.
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40
I don't know why so many people love eloquence. To me, it sounds like
it's
drunk, and if it reads a long sentence, the pitch just keeps going
farther
and farther down, like something with a dying battery. Pam.
From: Rebecca Skipper <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com
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40
I like the fact that you can choose your own external keyboard, but if
you
want to use it with the unit, it has to be Bluetooth.
You can still use an external keyboard with the computer.
I hope eloquence will be around longer.
I have heard that it is not always available on all because of licensing
issues.
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<orbit-rea...@groups.io>>
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40
I agree! I'd like to have a speech option that toggles on and off,
Eloquence, DecTalk, or something that sounds similar, because it is
easier on my ear than human-like speech, and less drain on the
battery, I believe.
I read the transcript of the chat, and really like what I hear. I
especially appreciate the fact that Orbit seems to be focused on
keeping this a simple display/notetaker; it does not have Wifi, or
try to do everything a PC does. I hope this means the Orbit has longer
battery life than other notetakers.
The option of using a qwerty keyboard was the selling point, for me! I
prefer a qwerty device, but the only notetakers that have it have
slightly under-sized keyboards that aren't the mechanical kind I
prefer. I am delighted that the Orbit will allow me to use my own
keyboard, and still have both input options!
Christina V.
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I would like to see text-to-speech capabilities for those who want files
read aloud.
I loved the BrailleNote's synthesizer.
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Lehmann, Timothy A
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 6:36 AM
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Subject: Talking GPS Apps
Any suggestions for talking GPS Apps, which can be instaled on an iPhone.
I am looking for some that are completely compatible with Voice Over.
Thanks and have a nice day!
Tim Lehmann
Access Specialist
Student Affairs
Missouri State University
Meyer Library 111G
901 South National Avenue
Springfield, Missouri 65897
Office 417-836-4248 Fax 417-836-3158
mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu <timlehm...@missouristate.edu>
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Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 8:24 AM
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Subject: Re: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech
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Exactly what happens when you try to use the dot Open command, which
normally pops up the screen with the files from your Dropbox MBraille
folder?
I have had different issues over the years with MBraille and Dropbox
working together. I can say that everything is working fine for me running
ios 14.4.
Other than deleting and reinstalling your apps, you can also try this,
which solved my issue last time.
1, Make a backup of all of the files in your MBraille folder in Dropbox,
moving them to a different location within Dropbox.
2, Delete the MBraille folder from Dropbox.
3, Within the MBraille app, turn off syncing with Dropbox, then clear it
from your app switcher.
4, Start the MBraille app and turn back on syncing with Dropbox. MBraille
should automatically create a new MBraille folder in Dropbox.
5, TYPE something in MBraille and save it so it will be saved to the
MBraille folder in Dropbox. This is just testing to see if it works.
6, If the save is successful, then use the dot open command to see if you
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Hopefully this is helpful and will work!
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On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:53 AM, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com>
wrote:
ÿÿHi all,
Anyone knows what happened to mBraille support?
I sent messages to the feedback list and never got them or any replies.
I did check the spam.
I also went to their contact form online and sent a message. But the
page never gave a confirmation that it was received nor did I hear back
from them... Very sad to see this app flag like this.
My dropbox support stopped working. I uninstalled app and reinstalled
with no luck. I also turned off and back on the db setting in the mBraille
app.
So now I have no aliases, no syncing of documents and no way to reach
out to developer...
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Ioana
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