Jones,

Good points, thanks.  Not sure he took into account the fact of .7c speed
in the fiber optic cable.

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 8:51 AM Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:

> *From:* Jack Cole
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> Mike McCulloch has come up with a way to test his MiHsC theory, which he
> has applied to the EM Drive.  I have some skepticism about the EM Drive
> based on some negative reports that I have read, but more testing is
> needed.  Anyway, at least McCulloch has developed an idea for an experiment
> that would falsify his theory and would be an amazingly simple drive system
> for spacecraft if it works.  He proposes using a simple loop of fiber optic
> cable with a metal barrier on one side to dampen Unruh waves.
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> http://physicsfromtheedge.blogspot.com/2016/07/lemdrive.html
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> Jack,
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> There are possible problems with this approach which should be mentioned.
> One problem was coincidentally mentioned here a couple of days ago – the
> “preferred frame” (and aether). I did not comment on this when it was
> posted, since it opens up a Pandora’s box. The other problem is that light
> in a fiber optics cable travels about 30% slower than lightspeed (however,
> specialty optics could become available soon, to mollify that problem).
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> A preferred frame is inherent in any definition of “aether” and its
> existence applies to the EM drive measurement - in the form of a number of
> baseline assumptions depending on how it is to be measured. Wiki has an
> incomplete entry on the Michelson/Morley experiment which is said to
> invalidate aether, but in fact did no such thing. When the experiment was
> repeated using lasers, 100 years later (Silvertooth) – aether was found,
> roughly as had been predicted. A few modern observers have offered lame
> excuses to keep M&M in place, but the issue is not yet closed, and
> consequently we should NOT assume the absence of aether.
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_loyzL9Wi4
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> In short, in theories that presume that light travels at a fixed speed
> relative to a detectable aether, the  “preferred frame” would be where
> aether appears stationary and we must include the local vectors. But if
> light was travelling slower in a cable, you compound the problem and might
> believe there was acceleration where it doesn’t exist, or if aether does
> not exist we have the inverse problem. Amazingly, the majority of
> fizzicysts still quote the M&M mistake as if it meant something today - and
> blindly ignore the implications of real aether and a preferred frame, on
> measurements of this kind.
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