The devil is in the details. The presence of helium but absence of tritium
if ‘muon catalyzed fusion’ is present is a puzzling. Unless the channel is
potently redirected to 4He which coherent behavior might allow for.



As for “proton annihilation” Holmlid only says that the experiment does
not exhibit evidence of ‘positron annihilation’. That comment seems to be
about some similar paper from a parallel universe.



From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 12:43 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.



Regarding:



4) A laser pulse is required to produce the annihilation event in protons -
the weak force is not involved at this point.



The weak force must be amplified because all radioactive isotopes produced
by the reactions are instantaneously stabilized including tritium from DD
fusion.



On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net
<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> > wrote:



You still are not making the correct and  important distinctions from this
paper.

This may sound pedantic but "decay" is not the same thing as "annihilation."
If is important to use the correct semantics here.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_decay

1) Mesons are derived from annihilation of the proton, NOT decay of protons.


2) Mesons decay to muons. Muons decay to lighter leptons.

3) Protons do not decay. At least not in 10^29 years - far longer than the
age of the Universe

4) A laser pulse is required to produce the annihilation event in protons -
the weak force is not involved at this point.

4) A huge amount of energy is produced from annihilation, much more than any
decay event.

5) This energy is generally NOT USABLE as the muons disperse far from the
reactor.

6) To obtain usable energy, then actual fusion must be incorporated into the
system.

7) Fusion of deuterons is a secondary effect of muons, which catalyze
deuterons.

8) Without fusion the energy of the muon decay is essentially lost hundreds
of meters away.

7) Because deuterium fusion in this case produces charged particles of >3
MeV - that energy can be captured and not lost. There are few gammas.

Thus we have a catch-22 scenario. The extreme energy of proton annihilation
to mesons and muons is difficult to capture, and thus breakeven or net gain
requires a secondary reaction - fusion - using deuterium. As of now, Holmlid
has not shown a way to reach breakeven without deuterium fusion being the
primary source of USABLE energy.



On 1/19/2017 12:00 PM, Axil Axil wrote:

Holmlid states as follows:



The state s = 1 may lead to a fast nuclear reaction. It is suggested that
this involves two nucleons, probably two protons. The first particles formed
and observed [ <http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.
pone.0169895#pone.0169895.ref016> 16,
<http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0169895#po
ne.0169895.ref017> 17] are kaons, both neutral and charged, and also pions.
>From the six quarks in the two protons, three kaons can be formed in the
interaction. Two protons correspond to a mass of 1.88 GeV while three kaons
correspond to 1.49 GeV. Thus, the transition 2 p → 3 K is downhill in
internal energy and releases 390 MeV. If pions are formed directly, the
energy release may be even larger. The kaons formed decay normally in
various processes to charged pions and muons. In the present experiments,
the decay of kaons and pions is observed directly normally through their
decay to muons, while the muons leave the chamber before they decay due to
their easier penetration and much longer lifetime.



Holmlid recognized that the DECAY of protons is where the mesons come from.
This decay is a weak force reaction in which a huge amount of energy is
produced...(1.88 GeV while three kaons correspond to 1.49 GeV).



Deuterium has nothing to do with proton decay. The protium nanoparticle can
produce proton decay just as well as deuterium. The protium nanoparticle
will still produce the 1,88 GeV as well as the deuterium nanoparticle.



Fusion is just as secondary side issue.



On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net
<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> > wrote:

 Axil Axil wrote:

The first reaction to occur is meson production which as nothing to do with
fusion:


Well, that is partially true - mesons come first after the laser pulse. No
one cares, since mesons have incredibly short lifetimes.

The main point is that mesons very quickly into muons. Muons catalyze fusion
in deuterium.

Muon catalyzed fusion has been known for 75 years. It would be next to
impossible to avoid fusion when muons and deuterons are both present.

The bottom line is this: if there is to be net gain, deuterium must be used
because fusion provides the usable gain - not mesons or muons which decay
too far away to provide gain.

Jones







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