________________________________ From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com <bobcook39...@hotmail.com> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 12:08 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; Dave Roberson Subject: RE: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages...
Brian— You mention “two other engineers” that worked with you, experimenting on the MANELAS DEVICE. When and wher did the experimentation take place, and who were the others? Were there any notes taken or reports written in the 18 months of experimenting. If so, are they classified and/or otherwise available. Who owns the IP? Who paid for the experimentation? Was Manelas at hid death working for another entity, or was he independently funding the researcxh effort you mention? Bob Cook ________________________________ From: Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 8:14:47 AM To: Dave Roberson; vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages... The cooling was a surprise.We expected to do much more testing. Alas, it was not to be. ________________________________ From: Dave Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 8:03 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages... Sent from Mail<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=02%7C01%7C%7C7026ef9b08e14696a16508d6b529f7d9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636895589187370586&sdata=y1KKfCp4nxscLvSL2iqC4ukgbmYplJ0toAZoKuI5deg%3D&reserved=0> for Windows 10 From: Brian Ahern<mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 7:31 AM To: bobcook39...@hotmail.com<mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com>; vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>; jone...@pacbell.net<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Magmo in the land of lost wages... I want to let Vortex folks know that I did not merely hear about the Manelas device. I and two other engineers performed many tests over 18 months. It worked. Manelas disassembled it to make a better one, but he stroked out on September 25 2012. I have the components, but no circuit diagram. I like Bob Cooks comments herein and I now believe that bifilar windings are essential. That is important information Brian. During your testing did you isolate the device inside any form of magnetic shielding? Also, did the device performance depend upon its orientation? I recall that the brick cooled during operation, did anyone measure the heat flow into the brick to see how much heat energy was being absorbed from the local environment? You are the right person to ask about interesting observations and I hope that you will share as much as you can. Dave