On Wed., Feb. 26, 2020, 4:29 p.m. , <mix...@bigpond.com> wrote: > In reply to H LV's message of Wed, 26 Feb 2020 15:24:06 -0500: > Hi, > [snip] > >On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:08 PM <mix...@bigpond.com> wrote: > > > >> In reply to H LV's message of Wed, 26 Feb 2020 14:57:52 -0500: > >> Hi Harry, > >> [snip] > >> A frame of reference is exactly that. It's a mathematical construct. > >> Choose any frame you like, and stick to it, and the > >> math will all work out. > >> Difficulties only arise when we, sometimes sub-consciously, change our > >> frame of reference. > >> Regards, > >> > >> > >> > >My point is that the mathematical construct known as a "frame of > reference" > >misses something substantial about reality. > > My point is that you are missing something about frame of reference. > The Human mind prefers to think of the World around us as a stationary > frame, and think of all motion as relative to > that frame.
The human mind, or at least a large number of minds came to choose heliocentrism over geocentrism. Therefore the human mind is capable of regarding itself as not being stationary. I will grant that the biology of perception often provides a substitutes for the reasoned choice of the mind. However that's just a personal choice. > As far as the math is concerned, you can choose any frame you like, but > your mind may not be comfortable with it. > BTW note that on a stellar scale we tend to choose different frames of > reference. > > > > >Does vertigo provide a frame of reference? > > Frames are reference are not "provided", they are chosen. > Ideally the choice should be the product of investigation and (conscious) deliberation rather than just be driven by perception. Harry
