On Tuesday, December 28, 2010 4:08 PM OrionWorks said .. In my own Finite Element Method Magnetic computer simulation studies one of the personal tenants that was finally driven home to me was the apparent fact that static forces, no matter how powerful those forces might be measured to exist at, do not in themselves allow for the extraction of exploitable excess energy. I was never able to discover anything close to an "asymmetry." People keep trying finesse an "asymmetry" out into the open... I've tried for years as well... but to no avail. [/quote]
Steven, I agree that Casimir geometry is static even where gradients between different geometries occur but you can overcome this with a 3rd body in motion relative to these gradients To exploit these changes. This would be worthless if you have to provide the motive force to this 3rd body because you are then limited by COE. You are applying the same criteria Garet Moddel used to discount 2 of the 3 models for rectifying energy from Casimir cavities. I chose the 3rd and most obvious model which employs gas law for motive force. I know Casimir force and gas law are both related to HUP and dispersion forces but gas law is very local and steers the atom randomly while Casimir force is an average static value for a less local area formed by the plate geometry such that it's value is unaffected by the hydrogen's motion. In this case nature provides both the gradient proportional to change in cavity geometry and the motive force in the form of standard gas law. I should also mention that nature doesn't WANT to do this - it would rather close the plates and relieve the Casimir force like we see in stiction or the difficulty we have in producing strong skeletal catalysts because the molten metals oppose this geometry and will not normally form cavities. Turtur seems to promote an EM method of exploiting ZPE which I haven't studied yet but I would say it must also obey this same sort of 3rd body interaction where nature provides the motive force to move a 3rd FIELD relative to a static gradient... In his video a high voltage potential with little or no current drawn to maintain the potential is the static gradient. I did note a large poster of Tesla on the wall in Turtur's video and his method does remind me of Tesla's posit that High Voltage solidifies the ether. I think the HV field can be shaped to provide the gradients similar to change in Casimir geometry but am unsure what equates to a 3rd body in his video where a floating wheel is encouraged to spin (reportedly will even spin in vacuum). Regards Fran
