At 11:17 AM 6/19/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
...Or at least, this is what Rossi is implying
in the comment below pasted from his blog. It
looks like we will know more details about it
after the presentation of the 1-MW plant in
October. Rossi paints a grim picture where LENR
researchers backstab each other in order to
obtain research funds and exclusivity rights.
Very sad if true. Let's hope it's just
confabulation following his anger outburst.
* * *
Do understand that many of us know Krivit pretty well.
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=497&cpage=8#comment-47160
June 19th, 2011 at 9:17 AM
Dear Staffan:
Your comment opens the space to an intriguing
consideration. Many Scientists have taken the
correct approach: wait for the 1 MW plant in
operation, then make due considerations. This is what smart People did.
So, by definition, anyone asking questions is not
smart. That's quite an assumption for a
journalist to face. He's not a scientist, per se,
and investigating stuff is his bread and butter.
About pseudo-Scientists and their reaction to my
Effect: probably you have read of the
âSnakeâ report after an interview he made in Bologna.
"The snake." Cool. Krivit made a preliminary
report, that was modest and only disclosed some
of the process between Krivit and Rossi and Levi,
none of it attacked them, he merely reported that
he was asking questions, and speculated that Levi
might not be understanding him, which was
actually a charitable comment, and only
reprehensible if we assume that Levi is the God
of Science whose pronouncements are Not To Be
Questioned. I rather doubt that Levi would
characterize himself that way, so I only assume
that Levi became personally offended by what he
perceived as Krivit's attitude. Levi's response
cannot be justified on the basis of Krivit's report.
Now, as probably most of you have understood, we
have very good , (VERY GOOD), intelligence
working with us; after the âsnakeâ
(disguised as a journalist) who has this week
penetrated our organization and made a report
based on a fake steam diagram, we asked to our
intellicence organization to probe what was behind, and we discovered that:
1- The fake diagram of steam has been given to
the âsnakeâ from an Italian competitor that
is afraid to lose the funds due to the fact that
the taxpayers are tired to give him money while
we have reached results without any funding
First of all, Rossi's claim here is preposterous.
Krivit is a real journalist, funded to
investigate issues around energy, and, most
notably, cold fusion and related stuff. He's been doing it for years.
Krivit apparently showed Levi some diagrams or
information about steam quality as a problem.
This is well-known. Since we don't see the
diagram, and I rather doubt that Levi has a copy,
there is no way to judge "fake" about it, and I
seriously doubt that there was anything fake
there. Krivit's report of it was that it showed
the problem if the steam quality is estimated
volumetrically, rather than by mass. They are
reacting as if Krivit asserted that the
measurements were volumetric, when Krivit
reported the claim that it was by mass, as
asserted by Levi, then, only, questioning *how*
the measurements were made. It's appearing that
this is a forbidden question, the kind of thing
that if anything will exercise the attack dogs, this would be it.
Tell me, folks, how impressed are we by Rossi's
claim of VERY GOOD intelligence. Is our
assessment of this "intelligence" -- that tells
us nothing of value, since, supppose it is
correct that the information was provided by a
"competitor," the question would still be a valid
one, on its own merits. This would be like a
defense attorney refusing to answer a question
from the prosecution on the grounds that the
question came from a proposal from an enemy of
the defendant. The question is valid regardless
of the source, this is pure ad-hominem argument,
attempting to discredit Krivit based on
irrelevancies. Reporters often ask questions
based on tips, and tips often come from people with an axe to grind.
But I doubt the whole story, it sounds like
someone made it up, based on indirect evidence.
There has been enormous discussion of the issues
around the Rossi reactor, and so someone sees
something from the "Italian competitor" has been
posted, assumes that Krivit read it and derived
his question from it. Or maybe even Krivit
responded, which would at least establish that he knew about it. So?
The question is real, and lots of people who are
very much not "pseudoskeptics" think it's a real question.
2- this Italian clown has been given the fake
diagram fro an American Laboratory, competing
with us, which gave it to him for the same reason
This gets tangled. So Krivit didn't get the
alleged "fake diagram" from the Italian
competitor, but instead of an "American laboratory."
3- the snake has been sent to us to try to dwarf
us to allow them to get funding
That's preposterous, actually. If Rossi is fake,
it will damage funding for CF research in the
U.S. The "fake" will rub off on
otherwise-legitimate research, that's been one of
my concerns about this for a long time. If Rossi
is real, if he pulls of the Defkalion delivery and it works, it's moot.
Rather, I see this: if Rossi comes to look real,
if the demonstrations are considered adequate,
funding for CF in the U.S., particularly pursuing
NiH methods, will skyrocket. So Rossi doesn't
want that to happen, until he's ready. So he's
running damage control here. "Damage" happens if he looks too good!
Consider this possibility: someone, perhaps with
better funding and support, comes up with a
better approach that doesn't depend on whatever
Rossi has patent protection on. (Which might not
be anything at all, by the way, there are
problems with prior art, Rossi has plenty of headaches.)
But it was not necessary to attack Krivit. I have
no problem if Rossi wants to look like a con artist. But he could be gracious.
So, Krivit, sue him! I think you might have a
cause of action here.... If he's right, he'll
have plenty of money, you could collect a lot. If
he's wrong, of course, he'll be bankrupt anyway,
you'll need to consider that possibility. See an
attorney, because, of course, I'm not one.
All this is very funny. The names and the
particulars of this paper tigers will be
explained from me as an anecdote after the start
up of the 1 MW plant in Greece: after the start
up, after the explication of the theory, this
will be the dessert. Something to laugh with.
Mr. Rossi, you are deluded. There is no shame in
the raising of legitimate questions. Many
legitimate questions and concerns have been
raised about many valid discoveries, there was no
shame in them. Being "wrong" is what we risk when
we take any stand, and it does not make it an
error to take the stand, if the necessary
information to understand the situation is missing. It's part of how we learn.
There was obviously an issue with steam quality,
we can derive that from your own comments. What
the rest of us don't know is how large an issue it is.
And whether or not you turn out to be "right" on
other issues is completely irrelevant to this.
My recommendation if my analysis is correct: Shut
up! Stop commenting, work in delivery of your
product. Don't grant interviews until and unless
you are prepared to disclose *everything*.
To control the damage from what you have already
written and said: issue some statement about
being stressed, apologizing for your own testy
comments, retracting any allegations that you
cannot prove. Be gracious, but firm. Continue
your real work, avoid all these distractions.
Now, I need to go follow my own advice. Wish me luck.
