At 08:49 AM 7/30/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Damon Craig <<mailto:decra...@gmail.com>decra...@gmail.com> wrote:
It irritates me to no end. All the rational evidence we have been
presented supports the claim that water spills through the outlet.
No, that cannot be happening. As Storms pointed out, there would be
no steam at the end of the hose. As I pointed out, the temperature
would immediately fall below boiling. It would be obvious.
That is based on an assumption that the water is below the boiling
point. If water is being vaporized, even a low percentage of it, the
water will quickly reach boiling, for all the water flowing into the
hose from the cooling chamber will be at boiling, and we know this
from the chimney temperature. If the water in the hose is below
boiling, it will rapidly be heated by sparging steam.
Further, it's obvious that water spills out through the outlet, at
least part of the time. That's how the reactor starts up! It starts
with all the water spilling out. Then what happens?
I think it's fascinating that nobody reports having watched the
transition. I.e, this thing starts with water flowing out the hose.
The E-cat temperature starts to rise. Water is still spilling out,
but it's getting hotter.
At some point something happens. Watching that transition could
provide some very interesting clues. I think this is what would be
seen: when the E-cat temperature hits boiling, very rapidly all the
standing water in the hose would be blown out of the hose. Yet at
this point, only a small percentage of water would be being
vaporized, because the E-cat has just reached the boiling point.
There would be the *appearance* of steam, it would be at the
*temperature* of steam, but it would be wet steam.
It would become dryer if heat evolution increases. Does that
evolution increase?
How would we know?
To know, we'd have to know the dryness of the steam.
And how would we know that?
Jed, I assume you have read the reports that the manufacturer of the
humidity meter Galantini used has confirmed that it cannot be used to
measure steam quality. Period. You'll need something else, they said.
Sorry. I'd come to the same conclusion from reading the
specifications, but also from the general nature of a humidity meter.
You were highly skeptical of that, dismissive, as if anyone
challenging this was challenging all expertise and common sense. Are
you going to acknowledge the error? Can you understand how you fell into this?
That might be useful.
It is possible to notice the taste of one's foot. From that, one
might be able to detect foot-in-mouth much more quickly next time.
