At 01:34 PM 8/3/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote:

Abd ul-Rahman, you are free to express your opinion, but it is just
speculation. There is absolutely nothing in your criticism that has
any factual content. Question is how much money you are willing to bet
for your opinion? I will challenge you for 40 euros that Rossi does
not do a fraud. If E-Cat is true, you pay 40 euros to charity, and if
not I pay 40 euros for charity.

I'm willing to make an investment of a kind, but at this point I consider the possibility of *delivery on-time* to be less than fifty percent. You are offering even odds, and, further, I'd be taking a risk for no real gain. Rossi did that. I won't.

Remember, I've concluded that Rossi is a fraud, but that does not mean that his reactors never work, nor that he will fail to make them work. Somehow the subtle distinctions evade some people. He's a fraud because he has presented deceptive evidence. People sometimes do this even to support what they believe is true, and even to support what is actually true. Happens all the time!

Tell me, Jouni, what do you think the odds are for Rossi delivering by the end of October? I could then consider a rational investment in the "future" of this thing.

The test is not whether or not Rossi is "real" because there is no way to prove that reliably under all conditions. Perhas the test would be Rossi making the "end of October" dealine he's mentioned. He delivers and Defkalion pays him, as a demonstration of satisfaction with the delivery.

Jouni, I've done a great deal of research on this topic. What I write is not "mere speculation." You commented that "absolutely nothing in your criticism has any factual content." So the links I've provided to steam calculators, to manufacturer web pages, to the evidence published by Nyteknik, and so forth, don't exist?

Jouni, you are incautious about what you write. I'll make that equivalent to deluded.

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