On Dec 4, 2011, at 3:46 AM, Peter Heckert wrote:
Am 04.12.2011 06:56, schrieb Alain dit le Cycliste:
I've look a gain, and I'm still suspect about using ZPE, because
ZPE is
only an energy that you cannot use to go below... by definition.
There are new reports that photons where extracted from ZPE:
http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26813/
This however requires as much energy as the photons contain.
I personally believe, that hydrogen atoms can be made from ZPE.
The mechanism to do this, is gravity.
There is no other mechanism to compress ZPE than gravity.
Therefore this can only happen in the intergalactic space in
unimaginable
large dimensions of absense of matter.
This "empty" space is a billion times larger than the galaxys
themselfes.
Most people are not aware about this fact, because we always only look
to the visible matter, but not the invisible space.
Therefore I think, it is impossible to tap the ZPE on earth.
But it can be engineered and used as a medium if it exists.
Peter
It appears we are too far in disagreement on this to have sensible
conversation.
In any case, my position on this is here:
http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/NuclearZPEtapping.pdf
You may find interesting the following references therein:
1 H. E. Puthoff,, “Everything for Nothing,” New. Sci. vol. 127 (28
July 1990): p. 52.
2 H. E. Puthoff,, “Ground State of Hydrogen as a Zero-Point-
Fluctuation-Determined State,” Phys. Rev. D vol. 35 (1987): p. 3266.
3 D. C. Cole and H. E. Puthoff,, “Extracting Energy and Heat from the
Vacuum,” Phys. Rev. E vol. 48 (1993): p. 1562.
4 H. E. Puthoff, “The Energetic Vacuum: Implications for Energy
Research,” Spec. in Sci. and Tech. vol. 13 (1990): p. 247.
5 Timothy Boyer, “The Classical Vacuum,” Scientific American August
1985: p. 70.
6 Walter Greiner and Joseph Hamilton, “Is the Vacuum Really Empty?,”
American Scientist March-April 1980: p. 154.
Hal Puthoff's papers (and other EarthTech staff's) can be found at:
http://www.earthtech.org/
specifically at:
http://www.earthtech.org/index.php/publications
Hal was a member of this list at one time, as was Scott Little.
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
