personally i don't believe nature (or god) balances the books for every process.
we only need CoE to hold for our measuring instruments.
harry

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:09 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:
> This concept is most interesting.  I would assume that the energy required
> to overcome the electrostatic barrier must still be supplied and it would
> most likely be stolen from the strong force presentations.  The nucleus mass
> deficit is substantially larger when a neutron is absorbed (Ni58 + Neutron =
> Ni59) than when a proton is forced into the nucleus against the barrier
> (Ni58 + Proton = Cu59).  This supports that hypothesis.
>
> An interesting secondary occurrence is that the subsequent beta plus decay
> of the Cu59 into Ni59 represents the expelling of the same amount of charge
> as was previously absorbed.  This second process demonstrates a relatively
> large mass deficit.   The end result of the complete process is a near
> parity energy performance when compared to direct neutron absorption.
>
> Why the coulomb barrier energy is not lost is still blocked within my mind.
> Apparently stars run out of steam when they try to fuse Ni56 with an alpha
> particle to form Zn60.  My calculations suggest the same occurrence if I
> assume that the activation barrier energy is lost into the mass of the Zn60
> nucleus.  I guess I must have a mental barrier that is difficult to
> overcome!
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harry Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Thu, May 24, 2012 4:22 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic?
>
> I guess this is also Frank Znidarsic contention:
>
> "If the range of the strong nuclear force increased beyond the
> electrostatic potential barrier a nucleon would feel the nuclear force
> before it was repelled by the electrostatic force. Under this
> situation nucleons would pass under the electrostatic barrier without
> producing any radiation. Could this author's original idea that
> electron condensations increase the range of the nuclear foces be
> correct?"
>
> http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapter4.html
>
> harry
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Harry Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> As another way to over come the coloumb barrier, I vaguely recall a
>> paper proposing that the range of the strong force may reach further
>> under some circumstances.
>>
>> Harry
>

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