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David Roberson wrote:
I took a table of nuclides and performed a Energy difference between
the different nickel isotopes, plus associated proton and electron,
and the daughter copper isotopes and compared the net released energy
to the energy required to overcome the coulomb barrier. The most
significant energy release which exceeds the barrier occurs when the
Ni62 or Ni64 isotopes are converted. The delayed beta plus decay
which is present for all of the other transformations looses a large
amount of energy to a neutrino which promptly escapes the device. I
will demonstrate the numbers below.
These components are required to build Cu63 from Ni62
1 u = 931.494 MeV Disregard the slight rounding errors, excel chart
source of data
Ni62 Mass=61.92835 (u) Energy=57685.88 MeV
Proton Mass=1.007276 (u) Energy=938.2716 MeV
Electron Mass=.000549 (u) Energy=.510999 MeV
Coulomb Barrier Energy ~5.6 MeV according to Rossi in his paper
Cu63 Mass=62.9296 (u) Energy=58618.54 MeV
Mass of components of Cu63;Ni62 + Proton + Electron=62.936175 (u)
Energy=58624.66 MeV
Mass decrease that must be released as energy=62.936175 - 62.9296 =
.006575 (u) Energy= 6.12457 MeV - 5.6 MeV Barrier = .52457 MeV;Same
Calculation for Cu65 yields 1.8532 MeV
In these reactions there are no Beta Plus Decay radiation losses due
to neutrino release and no 511 keV gammas.
Please note that I also calculated the expected energy release due to
W&L process on the isotopes such as Ni60 and had perfect energy
correlation when the energy required to make a neutron from a proton
and electron is included.
Exactly the same energy is seen in both paths (Rossi and W&L) when
the starting point is a nickel isotope with a proton and an electron,
and the final point is the next higher isotope of nickel.
I am working very hard to get a clear understanding of the coulomb
barrier energy behavior. I can show that the alpha process within
stars stops once iron has been synthesized, but this is only true if
the barrier energy is trapped within the nucleus in the form of mass.
I am approaching the problem from different directions to
prove whether or not this hypothesis is accurate.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: pagnucco <pagnu...@htdconnect.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 11:49 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR)
David,
Can you explain your conclusion.
I can't see how any energy is released in these Ni --> Cu transmutations.
Lou Pagnucco
David Roberson wrote:
> I may have been a bit to fast in pointing out the possible endothermic
> nature of the Ni62 and Ni64 reactions. They actually are the best two
> isotopes to use if you were not to rely upon the beta plus decay for a
> substantial portion of the energy release. They further are not
> susceptible to having the 511 keV gammas that would no doubt be released
> by the reactions involving the other nickel isotopes since copper 63 and
> 65 are stable and do not decay into nickel by that process.
>
> So, if Rossi is actually able to overcome the coulomb barrier by some
> mechanism and his device only uses the Ni62 and Ni64 isotopes then it
> could be functional. The energy released per atom for these two isotopes
> is only 1 or 2 MeV after satisfying the coulomb barrier, but that is a
> lot more than any chemical reaction can deliver. I wonder if the
> relatively modest amount of energy release also can be more safely
> directed toward useful forms such as vibrational coupling into the
> surrounding structure.
>
> All of my estimates and calculations assume the reaction path that has
> been suggested by Rossi instead of the W&L process which would be much
> more energetic. Each of these proposed mechanisms has it's own particular
> problems to overcome.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com <mailto:dlrober...@aol.com>>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>>
> Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 10:30 am
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR)
>
>
> I just wanted to point out that if Ni62 and Ni64 are the only isotopes
> that work then the addition of a proton to either results in the
> production of a stable isotope of copper which does not undergo beta plus
> decay. Much less energy is released per atom if the beta plus decay is
> avoided. My calculations suggest that these two reactions might actually
> be endothermic due to the large coulomb barrier.
>
> Perhaps this is a bit of misdirection?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:30 am
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> A.R. from Florida with love,
> "Andrea Rossi
