Yes, removing energy is the key to forming the BEC. Note that the current Secretary of Energy, Steven Chu, won his Nobel Prize by using laser cooling to form the first "pure" BEC. There is actually a real upside to this approach, in that we would be playing in Chu's back yard and he would have an understanding of what's trying to be accomplished, contrary to what has been going on in mainstream scientific circles. >From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose%E2%80%93Einstein_condensate The first "pure" Bose–Einstein condensate was created by Eric Cornell, Carl Wieman, and co-workers at JILA on June 5, 1995. They did this by cooling a dilute vapor consisting of approximately two thousand rubidium-87 atoms to below 170 nK using a combination of laser cooling (a technique that won its inventors Steven Chu, Claude Cohen-Tannoudji, and William D. Phillips the 1997 Nobel Prize in Physics)
--- On Tue, 8/28/12, ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> wrote: From: ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2012, 12:09 PM I believe unless you remove energy from the condensate, the energy radiated from the collapse of matter will instantly heat the condensate and quench further collapse since you reach new thermodynamic stability. Possibly the only way to counteract that (beyond removing heat) is a stronger magnetic field or further compression within the lattice. On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:48 PM, <helloke...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Hello Jojo: One thing to consider is the opposite of high speed kinetic movement. K. P. Sinha induced LENR by using a laser and REMOVING energy from the system. And Kim theorizes that Bose-Einstein Condensates are the primary cause, which points again to a REMOVAL of energy from the system. If you slow those Deuterium atoms down enough, they become attracted to each other. So if you do end up with a mat of these carbon nanohorns, you might try a laser operating at the frequency KP Sinha published instead of inducing current.