Axil,
Russ delivers 1000 joules of energy per spark with his high voltage and huge
capacitor banks. If he does this at a continuous rate of 1 spark per second,
that would be 1000 Watts of energy delivered/inputted into his papper cylinder.
It seems to me that the piston jump of 6 inches with a light weight piston DOES
NOT equate to 1000 Watts of power. This does not look like it is overunity.
This appears to be just ordinary thermodynamic expansion of the gas due to
inputted energy. Nothing appears to be special here.
Now, I am willing to be wrong. I do not have the time nor the inclination to
watch all his videos from 1 to 11. I watch 9 and 11 partially. In his other
videos, did he mention how much the weight of his piston is? If he did, maybe
you can calculate the amount of work performed on the piston with a 6 inch
travel upwards. This would probably be around 10%-20% efficiency, which would
totally be consistent with a thermodynamic expansion cycle of a compressed gas.
Seems to me this is nothing more than an internal combustion engine, with the
spark providing the raw energy for gas expansion.
Funny, but Papp may have found a clever and "magician trick" way of running an
internal combustion engine making it appear to be overunity. With the process
appearing to work with normal air, and now hydrogen, the noble gas "mixture"
may just have been a convenient and effective "magician's sleight of hand
technique" to divert attention from his engine just being an ordinary Internal
Combustion Engine. Everybody was focusing on the "novelty" of using a certain
"magic formula" of noble gases that nobody bothered to check the energy
balance. I believe this is what happened.
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Open Source Papp Update
Video #11, tends to support my belief that the power, force, and speed of gas
expansion is inversely proportional to the duration of the spark. When the
duration of the spark is short, the compressive force of the gas grows large. A
very short spark is a powerful spark. This powerful spark will produce a
powerful and forceful expansion of the gas.
To get gas expansion to the maximum, the duration of the spark must be
reduced to the minimum duration possible.
To optimize gas performance, I recommend a spark rise time under 50
nanoseconds with a very short duration to produce the most powerful explosive
and forceful expansion of the gas.
Video #11 shows that a continuous high voltage spark does not cause gas
expansion, but a short and powerful spark with a very short duration does.
It is not the energy that the spark carries in joules. It is how fast this
energy is delivered to the gas.
This is analogous to how explosives perform.
Low explosives are compounds where the rate of decomposition proceeds through
the material at less than the speed of sound. The decomposition is propagated
by a flame front (deflagration) which travels much more slowly through the
explosive material than a shock wave of a high explosive.
High explosives are explosive materials that detonate, meaning that the
explosive shock front passes through the material at a supersonic speed.
Some theory
Because of the Pauli Exclusion Principle, no two electrons can orbit the atom
on the same quantum level.
Electron degeneracy pressure is a particular manifestation of the more
general phenomenon of quantum degeneracy pressure. The Pauli Exclusion
Principle disallows two half integer spin particles (fermions, that is
electrons) from simultaneously occupying the same quantum state. The resulting
emergent repulsive force is manifested as a pressure against compression of
matter into smaller volumes of space.
Electron degeneracy pressure results from the same underlying mechanism that
defines the electron orbital structure of elemental matter.
When electrons are squeezed too close together, the exclusion principle
requires them to have different energy levels. To add another electron to a
given volume requires raising an electron's energy level to make room, and this
requirement for energy to compress the material appears as a pressure.
A big spark packs large numbers of electrons into fixed volume in a very
short amount of time and the gas explodes due to electrostatic increasing
repulsion.
At any given instant, the more electrons that are added to a gas, the bigger
the gas atoms gets in that fixed timeframe. This causes electrostatic pressure
increase as all the atoms of the gas grow bigger at the same fixed instant of
time.
If the spark pulse is short and powerful enough, an electrostatic shock wave
may be produced that may then result in an intense level of compression and
electron nuclear screening which then results in associated nuclear reactions.
It is well known the lightning produces gamma rays neutrons and transmutation
of matter.
This electrostatic shock wave may be causing this type of nuclear activity.
QED.
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
It's not exactly a proof of principle - and in fact it is closer to a
disproof of principle.
He gets little to no effect from the Noble gas mixture, but gets an
interesting effect from hydrogen. It is probably a hydrino effect. The
violet color is indicative of UV emission, which is the signature of the
Mill's f/H reaction.
Papp says over and over that he does not use hydrogen in his mix, and the
Rohner's agree. Therefore since hydrogen gives a rather strong effect, and
the Nobel gas mix gives almost none, by comparison, this amounts to a rather
compelling disproof of principle for Papp and/or a putative NGE.
Jones
From: Axil Axil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBWiWftGknI&list=UULuDKTNDFfat7iO7KGE7fQA&in
dex=1&feature=plcp
