On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Harry Veeder > > http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/WL/WLTheory.shtml > > Harry - let's count the number of miracles required for this to happen: > > quote > Allan Widom and Lewis Larsen propose that, in condensed matter, > local breakdown of the Born-Oppenheimer approximation occurs in > homogeneous, many-body, collectively oscillating patches of protons, > deuterons, or tritons found on surfaces of fully loaded metallic > hydrides; Born-Oppenheimer breakdown enables a degree of > electromagnetic coupling of surface proton/deuteron/triton > oscillations with those of nearby surface plasmon polariton (SPP) > electrons. > > Miracle 1 - SPPs couple with photons of light to become activated. There is > little or no light in electrolysis LENR experiments - but some light exists > in plasma glow or Mills reactions. If W-L want to cover electrolysis, then > they should demonstrate the reality of light photons, which are absent. > Blackbody radiation is not sufficient. > > "Such coupling between collective oscillations creates local > nuclear-strength electric fields in the vicinity of the patches." > > Miracle 2 - "Nuclear strength" is MeV. There is no evidence of MeV fields or > even keV fields. These would be easy to document if they were present. > Nuclear-strength electric fields produce x-ray radiation which is largely > absent. > > "SPP electrons bathed in such high fields increase their effective > mass, thus becoming heavy electrons." > > Miracle 3 -Heavy electrons can apparently form near absolute zero, and then > rarely - but there is no evidence of them forming at all at elevated > temperature. > > "Widom and Larsen propose that heavy SPP electrons can react directly with > protons, deuterons, or tritons located in surface patches through an inverse > beta decay process that results in simultaneous collective production of > neutrons > > Miracle 4 - There is no known EC reaction with hydrogen - that is an absurd > invention which is completely without precedent. > > "Widom and Larsen propose two, or three neutrons, respectively, and a > neutrino... Collectively produced neutrons are created ultra-cold; > > Miracle 5 - neutrinos are rarely captured in matter. This is even more > outrageous than miracle 4. > > "Widom and Larsen propose that such neutrons they have ultra-low momentum > and extremely large quantum mechanical wavelengths and absorption > cross-sections compared to "typical" neutrons at thermal energies." > > Miracle 6 - There is no evidence of this kind of neutron in all of physics - > and ultracold neutrons, which are well-known, are not similar to the W-L > concoction; but they should be if this proposal were to be taken seriously. > > Finally, Widom and Larsen propose that heavy SPP patch electrons are > uniquely able to immediately convert almost any locally produced or incident > gamma radiation directly into infrared heat energy, thus > providing a form of built-in gamma shielding for LENR nuclear reactions. > > Miracle 7++++ - This is completely beyond belief. There is no evidence of > gammas being converted to infrared in all of physics. > > Many observers who have followed LENR from the beginning are rightfully left > in a state of what can only be called "disgust" at the shameless hucksterism > (and attempted alteration) of established physics on display here. > > Heck ... one or two miracles should be enough for any theory, no? >
According to Robin reduced-mass neutrons can form spontaneously, but rarely, when an electron is captured by a nucleus.Would it be possible to exchange the seven miracles for one miracle of a reduced-mass neutron from a free electron and free proton/deuteron? Harry
