And I'll excerpt a comment Rossi has been challenged to do a test where the power levels in all three wires supplying the apparatus are measured and he has refused. I have quickly skimbled the paper and the power measurement section makes no mention of measuring the power levels in all the cores connected up.
Given Rossi's history of fraud (Google it but there is a failed thermoelectric generator using waste heat and a failed oil from waste firm) one has to take him with a very large pinch of salt. So - about these "premier scientists" who "investigated" and "tested" this device. They are not looking very good at the moment, are they? The fly in the ointment is that the calibration run worked. Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Ellul To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 1:06 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem Just adding a link to the register article. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/22/e_cat_test_claims_success_yet_again/ On 22/05/2013 5:55 PM, "Arnaud Kodeck" <arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be> wrote: I'm wondering if Levi and al checked the quality of the electrical power! On the topic regarding electrical measurements the report says that the measurements were done with a PCE-830. The PCE-830 monitored the 3 phases only and computed the energy consumption with data collected on the 3 phases. The PCE-830 can be fooled if the setup isn't as expected. For example, the ground might be not the ground but a hidden phase. That's why they should have checked: - The quality of the ground - The quality of the 3 phases regarding the neutral or between phases - The quality of the neutral (if present and used) - The quality of the 50 Hz of the power line That check will remove every concern about electrical input. Maybe they did the check but there is no mention about that in the report of Levi and al. To whom may I address this concern at the Levi's team and how ? Arnaud > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com] > Sent: mercredi 22 mai 2013 09:00 > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem > > > So in a sense the elimination of fakes is cumulative. > > Bear in mind that when Rossi says he has something he tends to follow up > on it. > (Maybe not exactly as promised, but close to it). > > Let's accept for the moment the OUTPUT analysis : it DOES produce the > documented COP. > > Electrical INPUT is a two-edged sword. It can be measured to 6 decimal > places .. IF you do it correctly, > but if you don't cover ALL bases you might miss something. > (eg an AC-only meter might not notice DC, or HF AC beyond its spec). > > But Rossi says he has a GAS-POWERED eCat. I believe him: ANY source of > temperature stimulus will do. > > It's rather hard to modulate/cheat a GAS meter, though the actual INPUT > power delivered might only be known to ONE decimal place.
