They stated that the chemical was potassium carbide or some other carbon potassium combo.
Carbon will also make nana-particles when the compound vaporizes. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote: > OK, can anyone from DGT verify that potassium is required to make Ni > nuclear active? If so, what chemical form is used? > > Ed Storms > > On May 29, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > DGT has already stated that they use potassium. > > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote: > >> >> On May 29, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Axil Axil wrote: >> >> You did not use the potassium based "secret sauce" that Rossi uses. >> >> >> How do you know his sauce is potassium based? >> >> >> Without the ability to create potassium clusters, the reaction is weak. >> Using only hydrogen clusters will not support a vigorous reaction. >> >> >> Again you say this with great certainty. Have you actually tried this >> idea and does it work? If so, please publish the results. >> >> Ed Storms >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote: >> >>> Axil, you make your statements with great certainty. Have you ever >>> actually studied Ni and successfully caused LENR? I have and I do not see >>> the behavior you claim must occur. >>> >>> Ed Storms >>> >>> On May 29, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Axil Axil wrote: >>> >>> EMF simulation in the CB range will form nanoparticles (aka clusters). >>> Potassium is the best candidate for the formation of dynamic NAE through >>> nanoparticle formation when stimulated by EMF. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Arnaud Kodeck >>> <arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be>wrote: >>> >>>> ** >>>> >>>> Ed,**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> I think you forget to add the EM stimulation controlled by the black >>>> box between wall socket and the eCat.**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Arnaud**** >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From:* Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] >>>> *Sent:* mercredi 29 mai 2013 21:53 >>>> >>>> *To:* **vortex-l@eskimo.com** >>>> *Cc:* Edmund Storms >>>> *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat**** >>>> >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Fran, I would not guess how Rossi bonds the powder to the wall, only >>>> that this must be done. A secret sauce is applied before the Ni is placed >>>> in the e-Cat in order to create the NAE. You need to identify how many >>>> additional secret sauces you think are involved. He also places a hydride >>>> in the tube to supply hydrogen. This material also might have an effect. I >>>> suggest speculation about things we have no way of knowing is not >>>> productive. Let's discuss what is real and required by nature for the >>>> observed effect to be produced. **** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> We know Rossi activates the Ni before it is used, i.e. creates the NAE. >>>> **** >>>> >>>> We know this powder must make good thermal contact with the wall.**** >>>> >>>> We know that Ni powder sinters at the temperature being produced.**** >>>> >>>> We know that the NAE is stable at these temperatures. **** >>>> >>>> We know that the generated power increases with increased temperature. >>>> Therefore, a positive feedback is operating.**** >>>> >>>> We know that Rossi attempts to control this feedback by controlling the >>>> temperature.**** >>>> >>>> We know that the power source responds rapidly to the external >>>> temperature. Therefore, good thermal contact exists between the source and >>>> the thermal sink. **** >>>> >>>> We can suspect that no additional source of energy or stimulation is >>>> applied to the power source other than temperature.**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> These are the only facts I can identify. Did I miss anything?**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Ed Storms**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:**** >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> Ed,******** >>>> >>>> you make a good case that something improves the thermal bond of the >>>> powder to the inner walls.. perhaps the function of the secret sauce.. I >>>> don’t recall the volume of the powder used but am under the impression it >>>> fills most of the reactor tube and therefore must also have good thermal >>>> bond through it’s own bulk to reach the reactor walls. I think the MAHG was >>>> a weak easily compromised cousin to this device with only a thin sputtered >>>> layer on the inner wall of the tube while Rossi has designed a way to stack >>>> NAE out into a bulk form away from the reactor wall. I gathered from the >>>> thread that very little powder spilled out when they cut it open after >>>> destruction… so would assume the bonding held the powder inside as a foam >>>> or gelatinous solid? Can we assume the secret sauce must bind the powder >>>> into some form of solid. I am leaning toward an open foam like malted milk >>>> balls but a recent thread also suggested a gelatinous colloid.******** >>>> >>>> Fran******** >>>> >>>> ** ****** >>>> >>>> *From:* Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com<stor...@ix.netcom.com> >>>> ] >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:43 AM >>>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >>>> *Cc:* Edmund Storms >>>> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat******** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> Bob, this is a good analysis of a possible design. You are right, the >>>> powder must make good thermal contact with the wall for the nuclear >>>> reaction to be controlled by temperature. Just how Rossi makes this happen >>>> is unknown. Nevertheless, most of the active nickel must be attached to >>>> the inner wall of the stainless tube. In addition, at the temperatures >>>> used, the Ni powder would sinter and not be easily to remove. **** >>>> **** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> As for modifying the stainless using chemical etch, I doubt this would >>>> be effective. This texture would have to be active initially and remain >>>> unchanged at high temperature. Such textures are not stable and would not >>>> survive the high temperature. Rossi has done something to the Ni powder >>>> that is very stable and not affected by high temperature. This fact alone >>>> greatly reduces the possibilities to anyone familiar with the materials >>>> science of this material. Rossi is gradually letting the cat out of the >>>> bag, whether he wants to or not.**** >>>> **** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> Ed Storms**** >>>> **** >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Bob Higgins wrote:**** >>>> **** >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> **** >>>> **** >>>> >>>> I would like to submit my speculation about the latest Rossi hotCat >>>> for discussion on Vortex-l.**** >>>> **** >>>> >>>> **· **We are told that the central reactor core is a 310 >>>> stainless steel cylinder ( 3cm by 33cm). There is no port for introduction >>>> of H2. The ends are cold welded closed.**** >>>> **** >>>> >>>> **· **When the test device was sawed open, only a miniscule >>>> amount of powder came out. This cannot be the active powder - it would >>>> have melted as loose powder rather than conveying the heat out of the >>>> cylinder.**** >>>> **** >>>> >>>> **· **It is highly desirable to have high thermal conductivity >>>> between the NAEs and the outer metal cylinder. You wouldn't get this with >>>> loose powder on the inside.**** >>>> **** >>>> >>>> **· **310 stainless is ~25% chromium, ~21% Ni, and the balance >>>> mostly iron**** >>>> **** >>>> >>>> Consider what Celani has done - taken a Ni-Cu alloy wire and etched out >>>> the Cu to realize the surface nanotexturing, thus creating NAEs on the wire >>>> outer surface. Suppose we took the 310 stainless cylinder and used a >>>> chromium etch on the inner surface. Chrome etches typically contain nitric >>>> acid which will also attack the iron, but not the nickel. The result could >>>> be a nanotextured Ni inner surface of the 310 SS cylinder with perhaps a >>>> micro-scale Ni "fur" in *high thermal contact with the cylinder*. >>>> There may be further chemical texturing of the inner surface or nanopowder >>>> added as part of a thermo-chemical modification of the surface to create >>>> the NAEs in high number on the inner textured Ni surface.**** >>>> **** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> Then, cold weld one end of the cylinder closed. Calculate the amount >>>> of metal hydride needed to release the desired pressure of H2 into the >>>> cylinder when it is heated and put this powder inside the cylinder. Cold >>>> weld seal the second end closed. Viola! You have a hotCat reactor core. >>>> **** >>>> **** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> Rossi has also described his "cat and mouse" where the "mouse" was >>>> added to enhance the performance of the hotCat. An easy speculation for >>>> this would be that he could take some of his previous Rossi micro-Ni + >>>> catalyst powder and add that as well to the hotCat as a means to help the >>>> reaction begin from a lower temperature.**** >>>> **** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> I believe the cylindrical outer heaters are just resistor coils >>>> embedded in a high thermal conductivity ceramic.**** >>>> **** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> Comments? **** >>>> **** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
