Josh:
Eric's comment about not needing a battery to keep spark plugs going was referring to a DIESEL engine, and diesels don't have spark plugs. The compression ratio is high enough to cause ignition of the diesel fuel when the piston reaches TDC. They do have 'glow' plugs for starting the engine, but there are no spark plugs as used in a gasoline-powered engine. Do yourself a favor and go play with MaryYugo and the other trolls over at shutdownrossi.com. -Mark From: Joshua Cude [mailto:joshua.c...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:08 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> wrote: Yes, and only in a diesel engine do you not need a battery to keep spark plugs going. Demanding a self-sustaining device is like demanding a diesel engine. ICEs were first developed in the 1860s, and the diesel engine was invented in 1893, several decades later. I don't think that necessarily implies a similar period of development at this time, since we know so much about heat engines. But I think the only reasonable assumption is that it would be nontrivial for Rossi get his device to be self-sustaining. Seriously? Do you really not know how an internal combustion engine works? Have you not used a lawn mower, or a kick-start motorcycle or a pull-start outboard motor. Remember the cranks on model Ts? The engine produces the electricity for the spark, and to charge the battery. Even if the battery were involved in producing the spark (and in some engines it is partially used), the engine charges the battery, so the whole thing is still self-sustaining. I have no problem using a battery (or any number of them) to power the ecat. And if the ecat can charge the battery, I'll happily call it self-sustaining. Man, this place is crawling with ignoramuses.
