must be connected to the mains------bingo- if your process requires electrical
input you must have a high COP. The conversion from heat back into electrical
power places restrictions on you ability to make it self sustaining. IF you
can get heat out at around 300C you theoretically could self sustain at
somewhere just over 2:1 but that would require closely matching the conversion
device and the rate of heat extraction.
When you down in the sub 100C range (where I always seem to end up) for
extraction, then you have to be at over 5:1 if you are perfect and more like 10
to 1 for a real world device when you have to also make electrical conversion,
fight heat losses, power to the controlling units, and such.
Also, you have to have a way to balance heat extraction rates with keeping the
unit above its desired working temperature. You just about have to have a
variable heat conductive path of some kind.
[ a few here might be interested- I am presently trying to make a variable heat
path device using a concentric tube around a heat pipe with a ferro fluid
between- but then I am a much lower COP ]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A Couple Hundred Bucks Maybe...
From: dlrober...@aol.com
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:46:26 -0400
Wrong again Cude. No one has ever claimed that an ECAT has run in SSM without
connection to the power mains. Read what Rossi has written. His definition of
SSM is restricted to a brief period of time during which the device is slowly
cooling off but generating internal heat. Controlled cooling has not been
proven to work yet and may not work with the present design.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Cude <joshua.c...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:06 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A Couple Hundred Bucks Maybe...
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote:
I still think that a standalone unplugged demo is the best approach - not high
wattage and fancy instruments and lots of wires and computer programs.
That would be nice, but evidently that would probably cause the reactor to
melt, or explode, so it is not an option.
That's the excuse anyway, but it makes no sense. If controlled cooling were
used to regulate the temperature, I see no reason that the necessary
temperature could not be maintained without it running away. And in the 2012
reports, Rossi, or Penon claim more than 100 hours of self-sustained running.
And if it ever proves to have practical value, it will have to be possible to
make it self-sustain, since it will have to be able to make more electrical
power than it consumes, or more heat than you can make with the fuel that
produced the electricity to begin with.
