Rossi uses heat shock to produce plasma.
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Arnaud Kodeck <arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be>wrote: > Axil, > There is no plasma pulse in the rossi reactor ! > Quoting Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>: > > Testing. >> >> What both builders of the Ni/H reactor have done is to find the proper >> pulse rate for the plasma creation reaction through trial and error >> testing. >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:29 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> >> wrote: >> >> Axil, >>> >>> You discuss the destruction and reformation of NAE over a finite period >>> of time. Do you think that there is some negative feedback mechanism in >>> effect which forces the new formations to match the old ones that have >>> been >>> destroyed? It seems logical that a process that does not have a direct >>> connection between production and destruction of NAE would proceed to >>> either thermal run away or ultimate cool down. >>> >>> I suppose that a process might originate where elevated temperature >>> results in that destruction being enhanced, particularly in the hot >>> spots. >>> The question is: What keeps the process in balance according to your >>> hypothesis? >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> >>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >>> Sent: Tue, Aug 20, 2013 10:23 am >>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: about the Nuclear Active Environment >>> >>> LENR is driven by a specific topology that directs electrons into the >>> special motions and concentrations which result in the LENR reaction. >>> >>> >>> Cracks are a good example of this topology in that through the >>> discontinuity of the lattice that a crack provides, dipole motion meets a >>> boundary condition that forces electrons to follow a circular path as a >>> vortex electron currents forms. >>> >>> This dislocation of dipole motion must occur at the surface of a metal >>> at the boundary between the metal a dielectric isolator. >>> >>> >>> The downside of a permanent lattice structure like a crack is that it >>> will deteriorate over time due to the stresses placed on its topology as >>> nuclear reactions occur in and around this boundary location. >>> >>> >>> The crack will erode over time and the special conditions that cause the >>> electrons to behave in this special way will no longer be preserved over >>> extended time. >>> >>> >>> But discontinuities in dipole movement will also occur between >>> nano-particles and micro particles. >>> >>> >>> These discontinuities will be continually reformed and dispersed in a >>> dynamic process as the particles float and bump around in the turbulent >>> motion of a hot hydrogen atmosphere. >>> >>> >>> These nanoparticles will also be destroyed by nuclear activity, but that >>> can be occasionally rebuilt out of the condensation process after the >>> plasma stage produced by a hot heater element or a spark discharge. >>> >>> >>> In this way, the NAE, is continually rebuilt at a fixed rate that >>> exactly counters the rate of destruction caused in these particles by >>> nuclear activity. >>> >>> >>> The effective LENR reaction is a fluid process of continual destruction >>> and renewal that any solid structure cannot duplicate. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com >>> >wrote: >>> >>> Terry, the problem is psychological, not scientific. Understanding CF >>>> requires a change in perspective, which is hard for many people to do. >>>> You >>>> need to look at the system in which the nuclear reaction occurs from the >>>> perspective of the assembly of atoms, i.e. like a chemist does. The >>>> chemical system os constructed by interaction of the electrons and this >>>> interaction has very clear rules. Any change required to initiate a >>>> nuclear >>>> reaction will be communicated to this assembly and cause changes before >>>> the >>>> change will be experienced by the nucleus. That process provides the >>>> basic >>>> limitation to any mechanism proposed to occur in the lattice itself. In >>>> other words, to cause a nuclear effect, the chemical structure will >>>> also be >>>> affected in ways that will stop the nuclear process. This is how a >>>> chemical >>>> system is known to behave based on centuries of experience by chemists >>>> and >>>> by examining material over geological time. A change in perspective is >>>> REQUIRED before a person can fully appreciate the role of the chemical >>>> system. That is why a condition must be created outside of the rules >>>> that >>>> apply to the chemical system. The region INSIDE a crack provides this >>>> environment. Events occurring in this region would not affect or be >>>> affected by the chemical structure, hence could form a condition able to >>>> initiate a nuclear reaction. This is a very basic insight that cannot be >>>> "falsified" in the usual way. It requires a change in perspective to be >>>> evaluated. >>>> >>>> This situation is similar to how the relationship between the Sun and >>>> Earth was once explained, A change in perspective was required before >>>> the >>>> correct analysis could be done. Before this change in perspective >>>> occurred, >>>> very convincing mathematical analysis showed that the Sun circled the >>>> Earth, as was obvious to any casual observer. The tools available at the >>>> time could not falsify this concept. >>>> >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 20, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Sunil Shah <s.u.n....@hotmail.com> >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ed, >>>>>> >>>>>> A long time ago, in Solid State Physics, I read about various types of >>>>>> Dislocations in crystals (grains). Are they the NAEs? They move with >>>>>> applied/internal stress/pressure. >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Dislocation<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Dislocation> >>>>>> <http://en.**wikipedia.org/wiki/Dislocation<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dislocation> >>>>>> **> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Wikipedia has a good article on defects in crystals: >>>>> >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Crystallographic_defect<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Crystallographic_defect> >>>>> <http:**//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Crystallographic_defect<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystallographic_defect> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But many think that no defect is required in the crystal structure for >>>>> LENR. >>>>> >>>>> There are strong arguments for both but, as yet, I have not seen one >>>>> that was demonstrably falsifiable with today's tools and technology. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > >
