The energy gain of about two is based on an energy in of 850J which
gives the appearance of having been typed in rather than measured,
possibly based on information about the voltage and current that was
applied. It would have been nice to have had more details. It would
also have been good to have had an energy gain significantly greater
than 2, as 2 is not enough to give an unambiguous indication that there
is something interesting going on (e.g. what about energy released as a
result of oxidation of the substrate that the water sits on), and not
enough to give a particularly useful power generator. Unless I missed
it nothing was said about the efficiency of the current demo and how
they would envisage it being improved. The calorimetry looks
sound/plausible as far as I can see.
Nigel
On 04/02/2014 03:13, Bob Higgins wrote:
I haven't made it to the Q&A yet.
Mills talked about there being a 100:1 energy ratio between gasoline
and water. In other words, a car would go as far on 1 gallon of water
as 100 gallons of gasoline. He made the case for a microliter of
water producing 1000J of excess heat which is about 1 GJ/liter.
Gasoline is about 36 MJ/liter. So, the ratio is about 28:1, which is
approximately correct. Clearly the effect is not like LENR because
the ratio to chemical is so small. Of course, Mills does not believe
the effect is nuclear.
It bothers me that someone that has gone through so much extension of
Maxwell's equations to bring them to the physics of the atom
(supposedly) has made such a basic mistake in the presentation slides
as missing the direction for the B field in the MHD generator. If he
makes that mistake in his patent drawings, he is screwed.
Further, what he shows for an MHD generator won't work for another
reason as well. For the expanding plasma to make power, it would have
to do work passing through the magnetic field. The magnetic field
will offer an impediment to the flow of the plasma - much like a small
orifice would. That will produce back pressure that will cause the
expanding plasma to go anywhere else it can. His gear electrodes will
create an expansion volume that will be hard to contain the plasma to
go through those high back pressure magnet channels. The expansion
volume around those gears would have to be small and the gears would
have to be sealed to force the plasma to push through the magnetic
field. The fluid dynamics of his apparatus just don't look like they
will work. It reminds me of the problems the hot plasma folks have
controlling their plasma at high temp and pressure.
The calorimetry of the "pop" is really interesting. The guy who spoke
about it kept interchanging power for energy and that was a little
disturbing. However, their apparatus seemed to show an energy gain of
about 2, presuming their measurements were correct.
Bob
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:56 PM, AlanG <a...@magicsound.us
<mailto:a...@magicsound.us>> wrote:
To me the most interesting part was the q+a toward the end. From
about 1:53:00 to 2:05:00 he finally cuts loose from the script and
makes a strong case for the quality and significance of his
research. It left me with a somewhat improved impression of BLP's
prospects. The engineering challenge is bigger than he lets on
but still within reach given deep enough pockets and careful design.
On 2/3/2014 5:16 PM, James Bowery wrote:
Measurements of the energy output and spectral evidence for the
hydrino theory start at 1:16:25
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net
<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>> wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Craig
He says he's ready to license the technology, and that there are
companies he's going to meet which may do that. He thinks that a
prototype could be built in a 'lightning fast' period of
time, maybe a
couple of months.
Well this is déjà vu all over again, isn't it?
Flashback 6 years to 2008. Almost the same Press Release.
Different process,
different players, same old shtick.
"BlackLight Power, Inc. is the inventor of a new primary
energy source with
applications to Heating, Central Power, Motive Power, and
Micro-Distributed
power generation. This relies on a new chemical process of
releasing the
latent energy of the hydrogen atom... This new process
generates electricity
for as cheap as 1 cent/kW-hour - two to four times cheaper
than any other
contemporary power sources. The company has licensed to seven
utilities
8,250 megawatts of clean, safe hydrino generation fueled by
water --
eliminating $2 billion/year in fuel costs."
Flash forward 6 years. How much of that 8,250 megawatts of
clean, safe
hydrino power generation have those 8 Utility companies who
licensed the BLP
process in 2008, actually produced in the intervening years?
Answer: zero.
Why? Who knows? I guess this is another one of those
inconvenient truths.
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat
it." George
Santayana
