Bob--
If the fusion occurs, I would think you would have a large release of energy
that would also have to be fractioned somehow since there there is not large
kinetic energy involved in the fusion. This is why I think Mills does not
profess fusion as being involved.
However, I have always imagined a spin couple or spin orbit force coupling that
absorbs energy in small amounts without much kinetic energy of reaction
products.
I also think Dr. Kim's BEC idea may hold up. Your question of how the BEC rids
itself of the excess energy is a good one. Possibly via the magnetic field and
its interaction with the magnetic fields of nearby particles outside the BEC.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Higgins
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Bob Higgins
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Is Mizuno poining at Ryberg matter or not?
Again, I am strictly an amateur at theoretical solid state physics; I cannot
attest to having an "understanding".
Since the energy reduction for the Millsian inverse Rydberg states is
quantized, even though it cannot radiate, the extraction mechanism must be
capable of withdrawing some large quanta - in the 50eV range (>10x most
chemical reactions). This is why you don't see ordinary chemical processes
creating inverse Rydberg states. While all of the mechanisms you describe
sound like possible evanescent couplings, I guess you have to ask yourself,
which ones could possibly extract a 50eV quantum from the hydrogen and then
where would it go? I think this is where Dr. Storms' linear hydroton structure
would come into play. The hydroton could absorb the 50eV into its macro
vibrational mode until some radiation mechanism dissipated it.
Just to be fair, such quanta could also be extracted in something like Dr.
Kim's magnetically trapped condensate of hydrogen atoms if the condensate
absorbed the energy as a whole and divided the 50eV amongst the condensate
atoms. Once divided, it is not clear how the condensate would rid itself of
this energy, but many avenues are possible.
The scenario of successive ratcheting down the energy of the hydron BEFORE it
fuses is highly desirable because it answers the question of why there isn't a
strong gamma emission leaking out when fusion occurs - the energy is withdrawn
in small chunks BEFORE the fusion can happen and fusion can only happen with
the very low energy hydron.
Mills response to this, I would think, would be yes, but no fusion happens at
the end. You just get the energy out from ratcheting the hydron into a hydrino.
Bob
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Bob--
What is your understanding of the energy transfer mechanism involved in the
evanescent coupling (non-radiative) phenomena?
The ones we know about are vibrational lattice damping, spin coupling, spin
orbit force coupling, electro-weak force coupling, gravitational coupling and
maybe others unknown. Some of these may be controlled more or less by the
local magnetic field which change the parameters of allowed transitions as
exist in a quantum system with its quantum energy states, whatever they may be
at any instant particular instant in time.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Higgins
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Is Mizuno poining at Ryberg matter or not?
Keep in mind that "Rydberg matter" does not normally describe "shrunken"
hydrogen. Shrunken hydrogen has its electron in a reduced orbital at an energy
state below the normally accepted ground state. This has been variously
described as "inverse Rydberg" and "fractional Rydberg" or "hydrino" (Mills)
states that are all below ground level. Mills describes multiple fractional
states below ground level. There is an older reference to a Deep Dirac Level
or DDL that is also a shrunken hydrogen.
Most normal hydrogen states, including the normal (non-fractional)
Rydberg states are entered and departed via emission/absorbtion of a photon of
the correct energy level. Transitions to fractional Rydberg states (below
normal ground level) can only achieved by evanescent coupling (non-radiative)
to the atom according to Mills. Incontrovertible evidence for the fractional
states has never been provided, though Mills makes a pretty good case. It may
turn out that LENR could prove the existence of these fractional states.
I will leave it to the more skilled theorists to say whether the shrunken
states (fractional Rydberg) of hydrogen are implicated in LENR - but to me, the
possibility does seem compelling. In Dr. Storms' theory, when his hydroton is
formed in the NAE (crack), he describes the hydroton as removing the energy in
the hydrogen atom before it fuses such that there is little energy remaining to
be released when the fusion occurs. One way to successively remove the energy
in such a hydroton configuration may be the progressive conversion to an ever
more fractional state, and when Mills' minimum size of 1/137 is reached, fusion
occurs. The hydroton configuration could provide the evanescent coupling
needed to take the H to fractional levels.
Bob Higgins
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 5:47 AM, Teslaalset <robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Recent positive responses to Mizuno's work present recently at MIT by
Yoshino made me look at his work presented at ICCF 18 last year.
In section 1.1 of this presentation Mizuno hints in my view at Rydberg
matter but does not actually mention Rydberg.
Bullet #4 and #5 indicates he thinks some involved atoms schrink in
size and in bullet #10 he indicates that alkali and alkaline-earth elements
show identical effects.
Looking to general description of Rydberg atoms, it is indicated that
Rydberg atoms are extremely large with loosely bound valence electrons.
Any opinions on these observations/assumptions?
