OK, would you believe the calculations of a staunch evolutionist?  Julian 
Huxley, a staunch evolutionist, calculated the odds for evolving a horse by 
chance and came up with 1 chance in 10^300,000.  That's a number with 300,000 
zeroes.  Considering that there are only 10^94 subatomic particles in the 
Universe, I'd say those odds are impossible, wouldn't you say?

This just goes to show that those who are experts and have studied the math 
acknowledge that the mechanism for Darwinian Evolution just won't happen.  Only 
ignorant folks like you mouth off as if you knew something

Here's further reading if you are inclined to continue embarrassing yourself.

http://carm.org/secular-movements/evolution/problem-genetic-improbability

http://www.icr.org/article/mathematical-impossibility-evolution/



Jojo


PS:  I can already predict your reaction.  

You:  "Jojo you're a fool, Evolution is settled science, I am not going to 
debate this anymore.  I will not debate with someone who can't accept basic 
science."

Me:  "Whatever!!!"  LOL...


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sunil Shah 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 4:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.


  This has got to the worst calculation of evolution probabilities I have ever 
seen.
  Surely you can do BETTER than this?  It's a bleedin' disgrace..
  And stop misusing the "proof" word all the time : D

  I do recognize one particular thing though, I see it time and time again in 
arguments like these:
  The failure to realize what a "big number" is.

  First of all, you have assumed SERIAL changes, ONE at a time.
  Secondly you assume there is only ONE entity.
  Thirdly, you claimed your calculation just "proved" something".
  May I suggest:  The calculation PROVES you are a TROLL.

  So have another go, but scale things up a bit before you do.

  (It takes today's bacteria 20 minutes to reproduce, so I don't see why one 
change every 140 hours is fast.)

  Why are you assuming changes are sustained? 
  Why are you assuming changes are observable?
  The math would say: A very small change x A rather "long time" (from your 
perspective) = An unobservably small change.

  /Sunil





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  From: jojoiznar...@gmail.com
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
  Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:26:39 +0800


  Assuming the most liberal assumptions of the age of the Universe being 
16,000,000,000 years. (504576000000000000 seconds)

  Assuming that at the birth of the Universe there was a single cell lifeform.

  Assuming that there are 1,000,000,000,000 changes from a single cell lifeform 
vs Man. (There is certainly more than 1 trillion differences between man and 
single cell lifeform.)

  This single lifeform must produce a change every 140 hours or 5.84 days 
(504576000000000000/1000000000000) for it to evolve into Man.

  This is absolutely ridiculous.  Evolution rates this fast must surely be 
observable.  Where are the observable changes we can see?

  Simple math like this clearly prove that Darwinian Evolution is stupid, yet 
we have intelligent people like Jed arguing for it.  I truly wonder why that is 
the case.




  Jojo



    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jed Rothwell 
    To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
    Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:51 AM
    Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots


    Jojo Iznart <jojoiznar...@gmail.com> wrote:


      To Jed and the rest of Darwinian Evolutionists here:

      I have a simple question:

      1.  What is your best evidence of Darwinian Evolution occuring? 


    There are thousands of books full of irrefutable proof that Darwinian 
evolution is occurring. For you, or anyone else, to question it is exactly like 
questioning Newton's law of gravity, or the fact that bacteria causes disease.


    I am not going to debate this. Anyone who denies basic science on this 
level is grossly ignorant. These nonsensical distinctions between macro- and 
micro-level evolution have no basis in fact. They are the product of religious 
creationism, which is sacrilegious nonsense, since it posits God as a cosmic 
deceiver who filled every nook and cranny of life with proof of evolution just 
as a trick to fool us.


    If you want to learn about evolution and biology, read a textbook. Don't 
annoy people who know the subject.


    I will not try to spoon-feed you facts about nature that you should have 
learned in 3rd grade. Anyone who makes the kind of ridiculous assertions about 
evolution that you make is beyond my help. I spent far too much time trying to 
educate people about cold fusion. When people have no idea of how the laws of 
thermodynamics operate, or the difference between power and energy, there is no 
chance they can understand cold fusion. It is a waste of time trying to explain 
it. I have uploaded papers on cold fusion, including some guides for beginners. 
Other people have uploaded beginner's guides to evolution. Learn from them, or 
wallow in ignorance. Your choice. As Arthur Clarke used to say: over and out!


    - Jed

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