As already mentioned in my previous mail (maybe net clear enough): It's ok if 
someone breaks WinCE specific stuff, and it's nice that it's still accepted in 
trunk, but what I wanted to say is: WinCE bot has a different 
_feature_configuration_ (e.g. !ENABLE(JIT) isn't WinCE specific) and that's 
what breaks most of the time.

BTW: My current main "feature" target is to merge the WinCE stuff directly into 
the windows, so it's more in the win directory. ;-)

-- Patrick

Am 25.06.2012 um 23:06 schrieb Adam Barth:

> Hopefully this email won't come off as rude, but it's not clear to me
> whether the WinCE port being actively developed.
> <http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/WinCE> says that the port is maintained
> by Torch Mobile, but <http://www.torchmobile.com/> says Torch Mobile
> is focused on BlackBerry these days.
> 
> Looking at the last year of commits to these directories:
> 
> http://trac.webkit.org/log/trunk/Source/WebKit/wince
> http://trac.webkit.org/log/trunk/Source/WebCore/platform/wince
> 
> The changes appear to be build fixes and patches that incidentally
> touch WinCE as part of project-wide maintenance.
> 
> Patrick, it's clear that you're putting in the effort to keep the port
> building, but I suspect the reason folks from the community don't put
> much effort into keeping the WinCE bot green is because the port seems
> to be somewhat in a holding pattern.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Patrick Gansterer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> IMHO only setting up a bot won't help that much. Someone must keep it green. 
>> From my experience with the WinCE build slave (which has some common 
>> features turned of by default) I don't see many people caring about it.
>> E.g. WinCE build slaves builds with JIT turned of, which leads to much 
>> redness of the bot. IMHO that's ok, since the bots exist to find failures 
>> with other configurations (even if EWS does much work in that area already), 
>> but most of the redness of the WinCE bot stays until I have the time to fix 
>> it [1]. BTW: It's not that much fun to fix all failures (and find the 
>> corresponding revision) if you pause for a few weeks.
>> Do we have any defined responsibility, when someone breaks a port? Should 
>> the committer watch landing of the patch? (and ping the port maintainers if 
>> it has some port specific issues) Can we make the green/red status more 
>> meaningful, to make it easier to see if a patch cases real problems? (IMHO 
>> many bots are red by default this time and so don't provide quick 
>> information in the buildbot overview pages)
>> 
>> -- Patrick
>> 
>> [1] http://trac.webkit.org/search?q=paroga+ENABLE%28JIT%29
>> 
>> Am 25.06.2012 um 21:56 schrieb Eric Seidel:
>> 
>>> If someone wanted to set up a --minimal bot, I'm sure that would be
>>> welcome.  We used to have a --qt --minimal bot at some point.
>>> 
>>> http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/BuildBot
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Pablo Flouret <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:03:12 -0700, Arthur O'Dwyer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm trying to build WebKit by the simplest possible method. I checked
>>>>> out the SVN tree and did "cd WebKit ; Tools/Scripts/build-webkit
>>>>> --debug --minimal". This produced compiler errors!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I tried the same thing a while ago, and submitted patches to fix some of 
>>>> the
>>>> issues, but what i was told is that there aren't really any bots building
>>>> with --minimal, so it's not guaranteed to build.
>>>> 
>>>> Last i remember, after you fix those issues you mention you're probably
>>>> gonna come up against trickier ones in --web-audio, --geolocation,
>>>> --netscape-plugin-api and --fullscreen-api (although i haven't checked
>>>> recently).
>>>> 
>>>> You can still run --minimal and enable the features that are giving you
>>>> trouble (e.g. build-webkit --debug --minimal --javascript-debugger
>>>> --geolocation ... etc.)
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> pablo flouret
>>>> motorola | webkit / browser team
>>>> 
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