Hi Michael, answers inline.
2012/7/26 Michael Smethurst <michael.smethu...@bbc.co.uk>: > Very delayed reply but think I'm still confused on this. Made a picture to > clear my mind but not sure it works: > http://smethur.st/wikidata > > The bit I think I get: > If I request > http://en.wikidata.org/wiki/Berlin > Or > http://en.wikidata.org/title/Berlin > I get a 301? to: 303, but otherwise correct. > http://wikidata.org/title/en:Berlin > The html wiki page > > But not sure I understand the machine readable part [1] > > Bullet point 1 says > http://wikidata.org/id/Q{id} > Resolves to the appropriate url depending on the request header > > Does resolve mean a redirect? Is that a 303? Yes, it is a 303 redirect. > Or is there no redirect and the "thing" uri returns content? > > What's the "appropriate url"? It says "the appropriate URL depending on the request header", i.e. it depends on the ACCEPT header if you get the HTML page or the data. > http://wikidata.org/data/Q{id} > Or > http://wikidata.org/data/Q{id}?format={format}&language={language} > ? The former I'd say, but this is not completely settled yet. > Bullet point 2 says > http://en.wikidata.org/item/Berlin > Also resolves to the appropriate url. Is that a redirect? What's the > appropriate url? As above. It depends on the ACCEPT header. Also, this is merely a convenience URI. > Is there content negotiation happening from > http://wikidata.org/wiki/Q{id} > > Or just from > http://wikidata.org/id/Q{id} Just from the latter. Not on the former. > What happens if I request > http://wikidata.org/id/Q{id} > And accept only html? 303 redirect to http://wikidata.org/wiki/Q{id} > Is there content negotiation from > http://wikidata.org/data/Q{id} > Or do I have to use parameters to get different representations? No content negotiation intended here. Maybe the latter. We are not sure yet about the supported formats and how this will work. > Is there a better picture No, you made the best one so far. > Sorry to be thick > Michael Sorry for having explained it badly. I hope this helps! Denny > [1] > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/URI_scheme#Machine-readable_a > ccess > > > On 06/07/2012 18:20, "Gregor Hagedorn" <g.m.haged...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Denny, I largely see your points. The distinction between >> convenience = webservice to redirect to canonical URL and canonical >> URL could perhaps be made clearer in the note. I read it as parallel >> URIs rather than as a redirecting service. To me the word >> "convenience" has a different implication, but this may be entirely my >> fault, I am not a native speaker either. I also agree on the choice of >> language prefixes, confusing as it may be, I should have know. The >> data plus wikidata is still confusing, but I guess you cannot avoid >> that one? >> >> >> About the Q in front of identifiers: At the moment I see the item >> numbers being used in rdf:resource/about, but I understand that you >> may need them as element names? My understanding was that properties >> will be prefixed by Property: anyways. >> >> In any event: I find the argument that a rare letter like Q is good >> branding not very convincing. I would suggest then a more memnonic >> choice, like WD2348972 or W2348972 instead. I believe the Q as prefix >> used in all canonical inbound links will be puzzling many people and >> end the explanation having to end up in the FAQ. >> >> thanks again! >> >> Gregor >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal > views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. > If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. > Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance > on it and notify the sender immediately. > Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. > Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Project director Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
