I agree. It would have been best if Tranzeo and Mikrotik had simply picked up the phone and actually talked to one another about the problem as opposed to having clients of both companies sending their complaints to these lists before anyone would find a solution. Whatever led to the issues we should all be grateful that Mikrotik did solve the problem at least. Maybe representatives from both companies will take this as a learning experience and be more proactive in the future about finding problems which effect both of their customers. Maybe this will stop finger pointing and delayed solutionns becoming part of the topics of the day in industry list servers. Scriv
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net < dmburg...@linktechs.net> wrote: > Might be a difference of reading the RFCs. I.e. the RFCs are not clear > enough as two people may be able to form their own interpretation too. > > ------------------------------ > * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer > WISPA Board Member - wispa.org <http://www.wispa.org/> > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services* > *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net > <http://www.linktechs.net/> > > */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training > <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/* > > > > Tom DeReggi wrote: > > I'm not sure that it was confirmed a Tranzeo issue. > > Tranzeo was however very helpful to define the cause. > > And Mikrotik did fix the problem. > > > > Tom DeReggi > > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Scrivner" <j...@scrivner.com> > > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > > Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:29 AM > > Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo Disconnects was: tranzeo's web site? > > > > > > > >> Mikrotik sent out a very public announcement that they had fully > >> researched > >> the issues with Tranzeo client radios staying connected to Mikrotik APs. > >> As > >> a courtesy to their customers who use Tranzeo clients Mikrotik wrote a > >> code > >> modification into their AP code which could be used to enable more > >> reliable > >> connections with Trnazeo radios. Mikrotik stated that the trouble was > that > >> Tranzeo radios were not following the RFCs. Tranzeo would apparently not > >> address the issue. The fact that Mikrotik did create a solution to an > >> apparent Tranzeo problem should not lead anyone to assume that this was > a > >> Mikrotik problem at all. I never saw any piblic response from Tranzeo > >> relating to this issue. > >> Scriv > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Josh Luthman > >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Thanks for clarifying that. I have read time and time again the > devices > >>> would reboot (power cycle, not just reassociate!) > >>> > >>> Josh Luthman > >>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>> 1100 Wayne St > >>> Suite 1337 > >>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>> > >>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. > >>> --- Henry Spencer > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Marlon K. Schafer < > o...@odessaoffice.com > >>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> But they didn't reboot. It was simply a disconnect reconnect. > >>>> > >>>> marlon > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 9:55 AM > >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Tranzeo followed the RFC by rebooting with whatever frame it was > >>>>> sent, > >>>>> as I recall. > >>>>> > >>>>> On 12/24/08, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <o...@odessaoffice.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> As it was explained to me, the problem was the exact opposite of > >>>>>> what > >>>>>> you've > >>>>>> stated. Tranzeo did something that's NON standards based and MT > >>>>>> > >>> finally > >>> > >>>>>> created a work around. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Who knows....... > >>>>>> Marlon > >>>>>> (509) 982-2181 > >>>>>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services > >>>>>> 42846865 (icq) WISP Operator > >>>>>> since > >>>>>> 1999! > >>>>>> o...@odessaoffice.com > >>>>>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > >>>>>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> From: "John Valenti" <vale...@lir.msu.edu> > >>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:20 AM > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Marlon, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by > >>>>>>> their > >>>>>>> update. (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug) Or > >>>>>>> is > >>>>>>> there some other problem? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> And Merry Christmas to you, too! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Glad it's not just me! grin > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Nothing particular right now. I was just checking for any new > >>>>>>>> versions. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem. > >>>>>>>> Not the > >>>>>>>> MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that > >>>>>>>> doesn't lock > >>>>>>>> up!!!!! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Merry Christmas all! > >>>>>>>> marlon > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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