The hopes and wishes world...

On 12/26/08, Blair Davis <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote:
> We can dream...
>
> John Scrivner wrote:
>>
>> I agree. It would have been best if Tranzeo and Mikrotik had simply picked
>> up the phone and actually talked to one another about the problem as
>> opposed
>> to having clients of both companies sending their complaints to these
>> lists
>> before anyone would find a solution. Whatever led to the issues we should
>> all be grateful that Mikrotik did solve the problem at least. Maybe
>> representatives from both companies will take this as a learning
>> experience
>> and be more proactive in the future about finding problems which effect
>> both
>> of their customers. Maybe this will stop finger pointing and delayed
>> solutionns becoming part of the topics of the day in industry list
>> servers.
>> Scriv
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net <
>> dmburg...@linktechs.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Might be a difference of reading the RFCs.  I.e. the RFCs are not clear
>>> enough as two people may be able to form their own interpretation too.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
>>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org <http://www.wispa.org/>
>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services*
>>> *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net
>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom DeReggi wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure that it was confirmed a Tranzeo issue.
>>>> Tranzeo was however very helpful to define the cause.
>>>> And Mikrotik did fix the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Tom DeReggi
>>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "John Scrivner" <j...@scrivner.com>
>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:29 AM
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo Disconnects was: tranzeo's web site?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mikrotik sent out a very public announcement that they had fully
>>>>> researched
>>>>> the issues with Tranzeo client radios staying connected to Mikrotik
>>>>> APs.
>>>>> As
>>>>> a courtesy to their customers who use Tranzeo clients Mikrotik wrote a
>>>>> code
>>>>> modification into their AP code which could be used to enable more
>>>>> reliable
>>>>> connections with Trnazeo radios. Mikrotik stated that the trouble was
>>>>>
>>>
>>> that
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tranzeo radios were not following the RFCs. Tranzeo would apparently
>>>>> not
>>>>> address the issue. The fact that Mikrotik did create a solution to an
>>>>> apparent Tranzeo problem should not lead anyone to assume that this was
>>>>>
>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mikrotik problem at all. I never saw any piblic response from Tranzeo
>>>>> relating to this issue.
>>>>> Scriv
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Josh Luthman
>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for clarifying that.  I have read time and time again the
>>>>>>
>>>
>>> devices
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> would reboot (power cycle, not just reassociate!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
>>>>>> --- Henry Spencer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Marlon K. Schafer <
>>>>>>
>>>
>>> o...@odessaoffice.com
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But they didn't reboot.  It was simply a disconnect reconnect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> marlon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 9:55 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tranzeo followed the RFC by rebooting with whatever frame it was
>>>>>>>> sent,
>>>>>>>> as I recall.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/24/08, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <o...@odessaoffice.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As it was explained to me, the problem was the exact opposite of
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> you've
>>>>>>>>> stated.  Tranzeo did something that's NON standards based and MT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> finally
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> created a work around.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who knows.......
>>>>>>>>> Marlon
>>>>>>>>> (509) 982-2181
>>>>>>>>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)                    Consulting services
>>>>>>>>> 42846865 (icq)                                    WISP Operator
>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>> 1999!
>>>>>>>>> o...@odessaoffice.com
>>>>>>>>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>>>>>>>>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "John Valenti" <vale...@lir.msu.edu>
>>>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:20 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marlon,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> update.  (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug)   Or
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> there some other problem?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And Merry Christmas to you, too!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Glad it's not just me!  grin
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing particular right now.  I was just checking for any new
>>>>>>>>>>> versions.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem.
>>>>>>>>>>> Not the
>>>>>>>>>>> MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that
>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't lock
>>>>>>>>>>> up!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Merry Christmas all!
>>>>>>>>>>> marlon
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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