The hopes and wishes world... On 12/26/08, Blair Davis <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote: > We can dream... > > John Scrivner wrote: >> >> I agree. It would have been best if Tranzeo and Mikrotik had simply picked >> up the phone and actually talked to one another about the problem as >> opposed >> to having clients of both companies sending their complaints to these >> lists >> before anyone would find a solution. Whatever led to the issues we should >> all be grateful that Mikrotik did solve the problem at least. Maybe >> representatives from both companies will take this as a learning >> experience >> and be more proactive in the future about finding problems which effect >> both >> of their customers. Maybe this will stop finger pointing and delayed >> solutionns becoming part of the topics of the day in industry list >> servers. >> Scriv >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net < >> dmburg...@linktechs.net> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Might be a difference of reading the RFCs. I.e. the RFCs are not clear >>> enough as two people may be able to form their own interpretation too. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer >>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org <http://www.wispa.org/> >>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services* >>> *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net >>> <http://www.linktechs.net/> >>> >>> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training >>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/* >>> >>> >>> >>> Tom DeReggi wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I'm not sure that it was confirmed a Tranzeo issue. >>>> Tranzeo was however very helpful to define the cause. >>>> And Mikrotik did fix the problem. >>>> >>>> Tom DeReggi >>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "John Scrivner" <j...@scrivner.com> >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:29 AM >>>> Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo Disconnects was: tranzeo's web site? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mikrotik sent out a very public announcement that they had fully >>>>> researched >>>>> the issues with Tranzeo client radios staying connected to Mikrotik >>>>> APs. >>>>> As >>>>> a courtesy to their customers who use Tranzeo clients Mikrotik wrote a >>>>> code >>>>> modification into their AP code which could be used to enable more >>>>> reliable >>>>> connections with Trnazeo radios. Mikrotik stated that the trouble was >>>>> >>> >>> that >>> >>>>> >>>>> Tranzeo radios were not following the RFCs. Tranzeo would apparently >>>>> not >>>>> address the issue. The fact that Mikrotik did create a solution to an >>>>> apparent Tranzeo problem should not lead anyone to assume that this was >>>>> >>> >>> a >>> >>>>> >>>>> Mikrotik problem at all. I never saw any piblic response from Tranzeo >>>>> relating to this issue. >>>>> Scriv >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Josh Luthman >>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for clarifying that. I have read time and time again the >>>>>> >>> >>> devices >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> would reboot (power cycle, not just reassociate!) >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >>>>>> --- Henry Spencer >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Marlon K. Schafer < >>>>>> >>> >>> o...@odessaoffice.com >>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But they didn't reboot. It was simply a disconnect reconnect. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> marlon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 9:55 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tranzeo followed the RFC by rebooting with whatever frame it was >>>>>>>> sent, >>>>>>>> as I recall. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12/24/08, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <o...@odessaoffice.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As it was explained to me, the problem was the exact opposite of >>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>> you've >>>>>>>>> stated. Tranzeo did something that's NON standards based and MT >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> finally >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> created a work around. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Who knows....... >>>>>>>>> Marlon >>>>>>>>> (509) 982-2181 >>>>>>>>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services >>>>>>>>> 42846865 (icq) WISP Operator >>>>>>>>> since >>>>>>>>> 1999! >>>>>>>>> o...@odessaoffice.com >>>>>>>>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless >>>>>>>>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "John Valenti" <vale...@lir.msu.edu> >>>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:20 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Marlon, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by >>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>> update. (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug) Or >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> there some other problem? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And Merry Christmas to you, too! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Glad it's not just me! grin >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nothing particular right now. I was just checking for any new >>>>>>>>>>> versions. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem. >>>>>>>>>>> Not the >>>>>>>>>>> MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that >>>>>>>>>>> doesn't lock >>>>>>>>>>> up!!!!! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Merry Christmas all! >>>>>>>>>>> marlon >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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