I just talked to Alex last week.  You are right no spring show.  But there 
is a fall one picked out for the Mid West.  I don't know if the local or 
date are finalized or public so I'll let him let that cat out of the bag 
when the time is right.

marlon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <e...@wisp-router.com>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd 
liketoknowwhatyouthink.


> Looks like you might have to wait a long time for next ISPCon. No show 
> this spring and no word on one in the fall either.
> They are talking of co-locating but not sure with whom. Broadband Wireless 
> world been co located with Interop but wasn't a fit and moved to NXTComm 
> which is now defunct kinda and goes under SuperComm again.
>
> Not sure what other shows ISPCon could colocate with?
>
> /Eje
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com>
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:05:36
> To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to
> knowwhatyouthink.
>
>
> Hi Patrick,
>
> I have a customer in Ca. that used Aperto (on my advice).  He probably
> started with it in 03 or so.  He was much more patient that I've ever 
> been.
> The failure rates were even worse than SmartBridges.  I told him many a 
> time
> to bail and start using other gear.
>
> As for coming down there, I need to get back to a few shows first.  I'm
> hoping to hit the next ISPCon (though I said that last year too).
>
> Why don't you send an engineer up here for a week or two?  I'll put him to
> work so he can learn what we have to deal with out here in the sticks. 
> Ben
> Moore spent a couple of days out here a couple of years ago.  It was good
> for both of us.
>
> Saaaayyyyy, I'd think a product planning/sales type consultant could do 
> with
> some time crawling under trailer homes etc.!!!!!  You'd be able to offer 
> up
> a lot of great advice to your engineers due to the experiences gained from
> several days of installs!
>
> I hope things work out for you at Aperto.  They are lucky to have you
> working for them.
>
> Now that they are a vendor member (they are right???) I hope you'll run 
> for
> a board position at WISPA!
>
> marlon
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Patrick Leary" <ple...@apertonet.com>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to
> knowwhatyouthink.
>
>
>> Marlon, et al,
>>
>> First full disclosure: I am currently a full time consultant to Aperto,
>> so I obviously carry some degree of a bias.
>>
>> Marlon, I am not sure which products you are referring to, but I suspect
>> it is the old PacketWave products, all of which have been discontinued.
>> Aperto today markets only one type of product: PacketMAX. While we have
>> a strong 802.16e product in beta, PacketMAX is today an 802.16d product,
>> which is designed for and optimized for fixed environments. In the U.S.,
>> PacketMAX supports all 5 GHz frequencies, as well as the 3.65 GHz band.
>> These are all bands we likely agree are fixed in nature, so 802.16d is
>> the correct version of WiMAX for these bands. 802.16e may have some
>> future (I've learned to be much less hopeful for its efficacy as an
>> accepted future mobile solution...actually, I am now a skeptic who
>> believes the market forces will render it a deep back seat to LTE), but
>> for fixed as it relates to WiMAX, 802.16d is the best of the WiMAX
>> standards. The e version injects to much overhead and latency. Using e
>> in a completely fixed environment is somewhat like trying to argue a
>> sports car makes the best cargo hauler. But, this is not the main reason
>> for my response...
>>
>> Aperto certainly had some big challenges in the transition from
>> PacketWave to PacketMAX. Many of the issues were legacy and related to
>> management decisions on what markets to focus on and accordingly what
>> bands and solution types. Marlon, since you have visited, management has
>> changed, including replacement of the former CEO to one who is much more
>> pragmatic, realistic and U.S. focused. Our new CEO, Brian Deutsch (who
>> is in large part why I joined), "gets" the U.S. opportunity and
>> especially understands what Aperto can be and more importantly, what it
>> can NOT be. Brian knows Aperto will not be the company to win major
>> carrier business, nor should it. With the team, he has made big changes
>> in how the company functions and responds, and with it many changes to
>> how products are decided upon and delivered to the market, and who
>> manages it.
>>
>> Recently, we made sure all product decisions and management and core
>> work on PacketMAX 802.16d has been moved from India back to the U.S.,
>> where the core intelligence, executive visibility and competency exist.
>> This is a decision I highly support. As part of this, we have had our
>> most senior technical staff making long trips to key customers to live
>> in their environments for a bit to learn how they work and the issues
>> they face. We've taken these findings and converted them into actions
>> plans that have been already put into work and resulted in major
>> changes.
>>
>> PacketWave is long gone now and that product bear little resemblance to
>> PacketMAX, both in architecture and functionality. No more two cables up
>> for instance. It is now 100% IF at the base station and PoE at the CPE.
>> The QoS functionality is excellent. The NMS has been changed to permit
>> local mode support and a wide range of other "must have" features
>> identified by U.S. customers. The PacketMAX 802.16d product is a sound,
>> high value, moderately priced solution with rich features and
>> functionality. It is a living product (unlike what some competitiors
>> might claim), undergoing continuing evolution and R&D.  When I was at
>> Alvarion, I was indoctrinated to believe that d was a dead end. I have
>> since learned that was entirely and view centric to Alvarion and others
>> solely focused on e, because for THEM, that is true. But not for us and
>> I think time will prove Aperto right -- d is the best WiMAX standard for
>> fixed and in fact, e has a much less certain future.
>>
>> Marlon, I would invite you to come out and visit the new Aperto -- the
>> one I am now working with. Examine the solutions. Test drive it. You
>> learn a whole new view and I hope you'll appreciate that I would never
>> tie my cart to a horse that I did not have confidence could strongly
>> pull the cart.
>>
>> Your friend,
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> Patrick Leary
>> Aperto Networks
>> 813.426.4230 mobile
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:00 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to know
>> whatyouthink.
>>
>> I have heard NOTHING good about their product's reliability.  I have one
>> consulting customer that's still using them, his failure rates are
>> shocking.
>> I'd have dumped them years ago.
>>
>> Unless this changes I'd stay far far away from Aperto.  (I've been to
>> the Ca. offices and like the people that run the show, but that doesn't
>> help my customers at all.)
>>
>> marlon
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pat O'Connor" <p...@inlandnet.com>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:29 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to know what
>> youthink.
>>
>>
>>> We're looking to deploy 3.65GHz this year in a couple of different
>>> locations because of interference issues.  So far they have the most
>>> compelling price point.  I'd like to know how well it works in the
>>> field.  All opinions appreciated.  Hit me off list if you want to.\
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
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