While I think the Opera complaint has firm ground to stand on, there's one thing in David's announcement to this group I'm unsure about.
> We think these actions are essential for the > evolution of web standards and the open web, > which Microsoft is hindering due to it's dominant > market share controlling consumer choice in web > browsers and trying to force web developers to > adopt proprietary technologies and techniques (ie > hacks, and things like Silverlight.) Why was Silverlight included? As far as I am aware it's a plug-in much like Flash, so why would it be hindering the open web? Surely web developers have a choice whether to use that plug-in, just as they have the choice to use Flash. I'm not saying the IE/web standards thing is unfounded, but the Silverlight comment raises some concerns in my mind regarding Operas aims with this complaint. Chris -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Storey Sent: 14 December 2007 09:16 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part I just one to make one point about this case clear (although I'm not involved in it in any way). The complaint is manly about getting Microsoft to follow accepted web standards more closely, and isn't about money at all. I believe we (Opera) have stated that we don't want to earn any money as a result of this complaint. Hopefully this is not one of the cases where just lawyers win. I'm hoping that IE8 comes out and surprises a lot of people with its level of standards support. That would be a win for everyone. David On 14 Dec 2007, at 00:05, James Ellis wrote: > Hi > > I read this on the Opera feed this morning, I'm not sure how it > will proceed > but it mentions: > > "The complaint describes how Microsoft is abusing its dominant > position by > tying its browser, Internet Explorer, to the Windows operating > system and by > hindering interoperability by not following accepted Web standards" > > http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2007/12/13/ > > I wonder what the flow on effects of this would be internationally > rather than > just in the EU ? Of course there is the opinion that only lawyers > win out of > arguments like this but it would defnitely be a more interesting > playground > if IE wasn't bundled and supported accepted standards better. > > Cheers > James > > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ******************************************************************* David Storey Chief Web Opener Opera Software Oslo, Norway W: http://my.opera.com/dstorey ✉ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ✆ : +47 24 16 42 26 ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ******************************************************************* This message has been scanned for malware by SurfControl plc. www.surfcontrol.com ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************
